Canterbury Weather Updates outlooks

Archive of NZ Weather and Climate
Forum rules
These topics are a read-only archive and may be subject to out-of-date information.

For today's weather discussion head to: New Zealand Weather & Climate
snow101
Posts: 27
Joined: Mon 27/06/2016 01:17
Location: Mataura, Gore
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 23 times

Canterbury Weather Updates outlooks

Unread post by snow101 »

Not entirely July weather related but...
I did a bit of digging about Canterbury Weather Updates and their false outlooks. It's actually quite bad.

June 8th they posted an announcement that the next 3 weeks would be unsettled with sleety falls to very low levels, and snow about higher sections of the Canterbury Plains.

June 14th they mentioned that late next week (that would 7-10 days after that post) they posted about a possible winter storm, which would bring snow to low levels and widespread rain.

June 18th they continue this forecast, saying widespread rain and snow to low levels coming on the 23rd of June, saying snow is likely about higher villages on the Canterbury Plains - that's the last we ever heard of that event, that Saturday ended up being pretty settled and dry!

June 27th they said that the next 2 weeks would feature cold weather, widespread rain and possible snow to low levels.

July 5th, mentioning snow to low levels, possibly even falling down to 200 metres affecting some streets on the port hills (WTF!?) in around 10-12 days time...... That's 240-300 hours away, completely un realistic and very unprofessional to post such a forecast.

July 7th (Today) still continuing on with very cold and air and snow to low levels in around 10 days time (still out and 240+ hours) --- most global models don't even show snow to low levels, and it's not even worth looking into this far away.

What they're doing is obviously all about the money for them, and the reach they can get on there page (which in lead brings in extra Ad Revenue for them).... Very unprofessional :mad: [-X :-k
NZ Thunderstorm Soc
Posts: 18488
Joined: Wed 12/03/2003 22:08
Location: Raukapuka Geraldine
Has thanked: 1769 times
Been thanked: 1412 times

Re: General July Weather

Unread post by NZ Thunderstorm Soc »

Yes. That's why I haven't signed up to become a member on their website. :D
JohnGaul
NZThS
Bradley
Posts: 1516
Joined: Wed 01/05/2013 21:06
Location: Christchurch
Has thanked: 142 times
Been thanked: 269 times

Re: General July Weather

Unread post by Bradley »

snow101 wrote: Sun 07/07/2019 20:02 Not entirely July weather related but...
I did a bit of digging about Canterbury Weather Updates and their false outlooks. It's actually quite bad.

June 8th they posted an announcement that the next 3 weeks would be unsettled with sleety falls to very low levels, and snow about higher sections of the Canterbury Plains.

June 14th they mentioned that late next week (that would 7-10 days after that post) they posted about a possible winter storm, which would bring snow to low levels and widespread rain.

June 18th they continue this forecast, saying widespread rain and snow to low levels coming on the 23rd of June, saying snow is likely about higher villages on the Canterbury Plains - that's the last we ever heard of that event, that Saturday ended up being pretty settled and dry!

June 27th they said that the next 2 weeks would feature cold weather, widespread rain and possible snow to low levels.

July 5th, mentioning snow to low levels, possibly even falling down to 200 metres affecting some streets on the port hills (WTF!?) in around 10-12 days time...... That's 240-300 hours away, completely un realistic and very unprofessional to post such a forecast.

July 7th (Today) still continuing on with very cold and air and snow to low levels in around 10 days time (still out and 240+ hours) --- most global models don't even show snow to low levels, and it's not even worth looking into this far away.

What they're doing is obviously all about the money for them, and the reach they can get on there page (which in lead brings in extra Ad Revenue for them).... Very unprofessional :mad: [-X :-k
Wow I didn’t realise it was quite that bad, thanks for doing that research, I’m sure if you go back further there will be numerous other examples of CWU going off one rogue model run more then 10 days in the future and talking about it on their Facebook page. Oh well it’s all a moot point really, their fans don’t seem to care that they keep getting it wrong, they are very popular 0_o
Razor
Moderator
Posts: 5121
Joined: Fri 10/02/2006 15:14
Location: Halswell, Christchurch
Has thanked: 717 times
Been thanked: 923 times

Re: General July Weather

Unread post by Razor »

And that's without taking into account the posts they delete...
Christchurch Rocks
User avatar
Richard
Posts: 8369
Joined: Tue 14/07/2009 07:32
Location: Medbury, Inland North Canterbury
Has thanked: 1656 times
Been thanked: 800 times

Re: General July Weather

Unread post by Richard »

I ended up disliking there FB page last week after asking where did they get the frost temperatures in one of there posts, the temps they were reporting were 3-4 deg colder than what was actual, cant be bothered with bullshit like that.
User avatar
snowchaser01
Posts: 556
Joined: Sat 11/04/2015 18:46
Location: Northwood, Christchurch
Has thanked: 71 times
Been thanked: 95 times

Re: General July Weather

Unread post by snowchaser01 »

snow101 wrote: Sun 07/07/2019 20:02 Not entirely July weather related but...
I did a bit of digging about Canterbury Weather Updates and their false outlooks. It's actually quite bad.

June 8th they posted an announcement that the next 3 weeks would be unsettled with sleety falls to very low levels, and snow about higher sections of the Canterbury Plains.

June 14th they mentioned that late next week (that would 7-10 days after that post) they posted about a possible winter storm, which would bring snow to low levels and widespread rain.

June 18th they continue this forecast, saying widespread rain and snow to low levels coming on the 23rd of June, saying snow is likely about higher villages on the Canterbury Plains - that's the last we ever heard of that event, that Saturday ended up being pretty settled and dry!

June 27th they said that the next 2 weeks would feature cold weather, widespread rain and possible snow to low levels.

July 5th, mentioning snow to low levels, possibly even falling down to 200 metres affecting some streets on the port hills (WTF!?) in around 10-12 days time...... That's 240-300 hours away, completely un realistic and very unprofessional to post such a forecast.

July 7th (Today) still continuing on with very cold and air and snow to low levels in around 10 days time (still out and 240+ hours) --- most global models don't even show snow to low levels, and it's not even worth looking into this far away.

What they're doing is obviously all about the money for them, and the reach they can get on there page (which in lead brings in extra Ad Revenue for them).... Very unprofessional :mad: [-X :-k
Even on their website homepage this morning they are mentioning cold weather with snow to low levers around the 17th to 19th... yesterday they were saying 16th to 18th i believe... they cant just change the dates as it pleases them this far out??
Born and bred Cantab. Weather is my passion. Reporting from northern Christchurch.
Check me out on Youtube!
www.youtube.com/channel/UCa9rslfDkfWR3X6Spw5b5yA
Growler
Posts: 72
Joined: Sat 13/08/2011 21:08
Location: The Town of the Future! Today!
Has thanked: 23 times
Been thanked: 32 times

Re: General July Weather

Unread post by Growler »

I forecast snow on the 47th of August, I might just start a www and charge people to subscribe to it
User avatar
Richard
Posts: 8369
Joined: Tue 14/07/2009 07:32
Location: Medbury, Inland North Canterbury
Has thanked: 1656 times
Been thanked: 800 times

Re: General July Weather

Unread post by Richard »

Growler wrote: Mon 08/07/2019 14:32 I forecast snow on the 47th of August, I might just start a www and charge people to subscribe to it
Chuck in a few ridiculous temp as well wont ya ? :D

The next week is looking extremely windy, so double peg the bloomers to the line ladies, more so this weekend
Cantab03
Posts: 179
Joined: Sun 03/06/2018 19:27
Location: Christchurch
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 53 times

Re: General July Weather

Unread post by Cantab03 »

Hey Guys,

Been off the forum for a few years (previously under CHCH Weather Chaser). Have still been a follower on here. Regarding CWU, I decided to break away late last year, as I didn't agree with the vision and politics behind the company anymore. It was causing a heap of stress and I felt my name was attached to something that really didn't reflect my values. The whole point of the CWU initially was to provide forecasts that were not sensationalized and offered a point of difference, however it has turned into a "click-bait" style and it was something I had numerous arguments about before I left. The reason I say this is I do not want to be viewed or attached to CWU anymore, as I strongly disagree with the vision and process behind it now.

I totally agree with all the comments mentioned previously in this forum and I have not once myself seen anything that reflects everything being mentioned.

Looking into the near future, the drier than winter looks to be continuing with this trend for now....law of averages though? Maybe we might get some action swinging around for the back-half of the season! Fingers crossed!

Cheers,
Leighton Thomas
Bradley
Posts: 1516
Joined: Wed 01/05/2013 21:06
Location: Christchurch
Has thanked: 142 times
Been thanked: 269 times

Re: General July Weather

Unread post by Bradley »

Cantab03 wrote: Mon 08/07/2019 17:50 Hey Guys,

Been off the forum for a few years (previously under CHCH Weather Chaser). Have still been a follower on here. Regarding CWU, I decided to break away late last year, as I didn't agree with the vision and politics behind the company anymore. It was causing a heap of stress and I felt my name was attached to something that really didn't reflect my values. The whole point of the CWU initially was to provide forecasts that were not sensationalized and offered a point of difference, however it has turned into a "click-bait" style and it was something I had numerous arguments about before I left. The reason I say this is I do not want to be viewed or attached to CWU anymore, as I strongly disagree with the vision and process behind it now.

I totally agree with all the comments mentioned previously in this forum and I have not once myself seen anything that reflects everything being mentioned.

Looking into the near future, the drier than winter looks to be continuing with this trend for now....law of averages though? Maybe we might get some action swinging around for the back-half of the season! Fingers crossed!

Cheers,
Leighton Thomas
Thanks for the insight Leighton, it’s a shame but it seems like everyone who gets into business with Russell ends up leaving because of his approach to business, he is young though - hopefully one day he realises there is more to life then money...
User avatar
snowchaser01
Posts: 556
Joined: Sat 11/04/2015 18:46
Location: Northwood, Christchurch
Has thanked: 71 times
Been thanked: 95 times

Re: General July Weather

Unread post by snowchaser01 »

Bradley wrote: Mon 08/07/2019 20:43
Cantab03 wrote: Mon 08/07/2019 17:50 Hey Guys,

Been off the forum for a few years (previously under CHCH Weather Chaser). Have still been a follower on here. Regarding CWU, I decided to break away late last year, as I didn't agree with the vision and politics behind the company anymore. It was causing a heap of stress and I felt my name was attached to something that really didn't reflect my values. The whole point of the CWU initially was to provide forecasts that were not sensationalized and offered a point of difference, however it has turned into a "click-bait" style and it was something I had numerous arguments about before I left. The reason I say this is I do not want to be viewed or attached to CWU anymore, as I strongly disagree with the vision and process behind it now.

I totally agree with all the comments mentioned previously in this forum and I have not once myself seen anything that reflects everything being mentioned.

Looking into the near future, the drier than winter looks to be continuing with this trend for now....law of averages though? Maybe we might get some action swinging around for the back-half of the season! Fingers crossed!

Cheers,
Leighton Thomas
Thanks for the insight Leighton, it’s a shame but it seems like everyone who gets into business with Russell ends up leaving because of his approach to business, he is young though - hopefully one day he realises there is more to life then money...
Well that makes at least 2 of us that have left because of business disagreements.... there is one common denominator !
Born and bred Cantab. Weather is my passion. Reporting from northern Christchurch.
Check me out on Youtube!
www.youtube.com/channel/UCa9rslfDkfWR3X6Spw5b5yA
melja
Posts: 2202
Joined: Sun 11/06/2006 20:57
Location: Waikawa, Picton
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 74 times

Re: Canterbury Weather Updates outlooks

Unread post by melja »

Keep it company related and don't attack individuals.

Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk

User avatar
snowchaser01
Posts: 556
Joined: Sat 11/04/2015 18:46
Location: Northwood, Christchurch
Has thanked: 71 times
Been thanked: 95 times

Re: Canterbury Weather Updates outlooks

Unread post by snowchaser01 »

melja wrote: Tue 09/07/2019 05:06 Keep it company related and don't attack individuals.

Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk
:rolleyes: :-w
Born and bred Cantab. Weather is my passion. Reporting from northern Christchurch.
Check me out on Youtube!
www.youtube.com/channel/UCa9rslfDkfWR3X6Spw5b5yA
User avatar
snowchaser01
Posts: 556
Joined: Sat 11/04/2015 18:46
Location: Northwood, Christchurch
Has thanked: 71 times
Been thanked: 95 times

Re: Canterbury Weather Updates outlooks

Unread post by snowchaser01 »

melja wrote: Tue 09/07/2019 05:06 Keep it company related and don't attack individuals.

Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk
Yes, the common denominator is CWU (the company). And many people have had run ins with the owner. Not an attack by any stretch of the imagination.
Born and bred Cantab. Weather is my passion. Reporting from northern Christchurch.
Check me out on Youtube!
www.youtube.com/channel/UCa9rslfDkfWR3X6Spw5b5yA
midgrove
Posts: 64
Joined: Sat 07/07/2012 16:30
Location: Blenheim
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 22 times

Re: Canterbury Weather Updates outlooks

Unread post by midgrove »

I had a run in with them last year after challenging their headline "severe tropical cyclone expected to make landfall in New Zealand" which was ex tropical cyclone Gita. New Zealand is to far south of tropical waters (ie above 27 deg) needed to sustain a tropical cyclone even during the "oceanic heatwave" and to imply that New Zealand would be hit by a Cat 3 or above tropical cyclone was dangerous scaremongering. No doubt they got lots of click bait hits .
RWood
Posts: 3745
Joined: Sat 24/01/2004 16:56
Location: Wellington
Has thanked: 188 times
Been thanked: 123 times

Re: Canterbury Weather Updates outlooks

Unread post by RWood »

We live in a world of click bait trash and Alternative Facts ...
matttbs
Posts: 466
Joined: Mon 27/05/2013 19:16
Location: Inland mayfield 310asl
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 7 times

Re: Canterbury Weather Updates outlooks

Unread post by matttbs »

The whole page is a joke, the dude who runs it is a joke, I don’t care if people think this is an attack on an individual, the company is run by someone therefore someone is to blame. The weather forecast they produce borderline the retarded. Hi everyone by the way, been a while
Auckland & Tauranga
Cantab03
Posts: 179
Joined: Sun 03/06/2018 19:27
Location: Christchurch
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 53 times

Re: Canterbury Weather Updates outlooks

Unread post by Cantab03 »

Yes I should of left even sooner than the end of last year. Put myself through a lot of unnecessary stress and what use to be my passion and love, turned into a chore!! Having had 6 months away now, my passion is back!
User avatar
Thunder081
Posts: 469
Joined: Wed 22/08/2012 00:10
Location: Christchurch
Has thanked: 140 times
Been thanked: 464 times

Re: Canterbury Weather Updates outlooks

Unread post by Thunder081 »

Heyyy CWU, how's the progress orrrr I mean 'negotiations' with metservice going to get rain radar images onto your website? Hahahaha
Last edited by Thunder081 on Wed 10/07/2019 00:57, edited 1 time in total.
Wellington southerly front timelapse: www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBl3hsuIg2Q
User avatar
03Stormchaser
Moderator
Posts: 4428
Joined: Tue 09/12/2003 12:11
Location: Prebbleton
Has thanked: 104 times
Been thanked: 184 times
Contact:

Re: Canterbury Weather Updates outlooks

Unread post by 03Stormchaser »

I've been banned from there for a few years now, mind you Chris Lynch banned me after he called me a precious little stormchaser lol

I probably only look at CWU if im feeling like a pick me up and need some humour :)
Although gotta admit they are good at running a social media page and making click bait, forecasts most definitely are not there first priority.
NZ Largest Storm Chasing Facebook Pagehttp://www.facebook.com/nzstormchasers
NZ Largest Storm Chase Community https://www.facebook.com/groups/NZStormchasersGroup
NZ Stormchasers TV https://www.youtube.com/@NZStormchasers
User avatar
Thunder081
Posts: 469
Joined: Wed 22/08/2012 00:10
Location: Christchurch
Has thanked: 140 times
Been thanked: 464 times

Re: Canterbury Weather Updates outlooks

Unread post by Thunder081 »

03Stormchaser wrote: Tue 09/07/2019 20:15 I've been banned from there for a few years now, mind you Chris Lynch banned me after he called me a precious little stormchaser lol
Chris Lynch from newstalkzb?
Wellington southerly front timelapse: www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBl3hsuIg2Q
User avatar
03Stormchaser
Moderator
Posts: 4428
Joined: Tue 09/12/2003 12:11
Location: Prebbleton
Has thanked: 104 times
Been thanked: 184 times
Contact:

Re: Canterbury Weather Updates outlooks

Unread post by 03Stormchaser »

Thunder081 wrote:
03Stormchaser wrote: Tue 09/07/2019 20:15 I've been banned from there for a few years now, mind you Chris Lynch banned me after he called me a precious little stormchaser lol
Chris Lynch from newstalkzb?
Didn't like being corrected about the difference between a dust devil and tornado Image
NZ Largest Storm Chasing Facebook Pagehttp://www.facebook.com/nzstormchasers
NZ Largest Storm Chase Community https://www.facebook.com/groups/NZStormchasersGroup
NZ Stormchasers TV https://www.youtube.com/@NZStormchasers
User avatar
Richard
Posts: 8369
Joined: Tue 14/07/2009 07:32
Location: Medbury, Inland North Canterbury
Has thanked: 1656 times
Been thanked: 800 times

Re: Canterbury Weather Updates outlooks

Unread post by Richard »

03Stormchaser wrote: Tue 09/07/2019 20:15 forecasts most definitely are not there first priority.
Accuracy is most definitely are not there first priority either, as long as it sound impressive.
RWood
Posts: 3745
Joined: Sat 24/01/2004 16:56
Location: Wellington
Has thanked: 188 times
Been thanked: 123 times

Re: Canterbury Weather Updates outlooks

Unread post by RWood »

Richard wrote: Wed 10/07/2019 07:35
03Stormchaser wrote: Tue 09/07/2019 20:15 forecasts most definitely are not there first priority.
Accuracy is most definitely are not there first priority either, as long as it sound impressive.
Could say the same about NewsquawkZB .... propaganda and chest-beating comes first.
User avatar
snowchaser01
Posts: 556
Joined: Sat 11/04/2015 18:46
Location: Northwood, Christchurch
Has thanked: 71 times
Been thanked: 95 times

Re: Canterbury Weather Updates outlooks

Unread post by snowchaser01 »

Almost like clockwork... CWU's main page summary now has no mention of "low level snow around the 19th". Clickbait at its finest!
Born and bred Cantab. Weather is my passion. Reporting from northern Christchurch.
Check me out on Youtube!
www.youtube.com/channel/UCa9rslfDkfWR3X6Spw5b5yA
Locked