Summer at last

Willoughby · Unread post by **Willoughby** » Tue 11/01/2005 00:58

I thought i'd start a new thread on the welcome boring weather ahead

MetService computers are spitting out very odd temps for today, 27c for Taumarunui, 25c here... I doubt it will reach those temps on a SE...

But! It's back to the beach now for some of us atleast

tich · Unread post by **tich** » Tue 11/01/2005 09:46

MetService computers are spitting out very odd temps for today, 27c for Taumarunui, 25c here... I doubt it will reach those temps on a SE...

I remember some warm summer days (mid-high 20s) in Rotorua and Hamilton in a southeasterly. I guess there's a kind of fohn effect from the central and eastern NI high country in such a flow, though nothing like that generated by the Southern Alps.

Some of those warm southeasterly days started after a mild night when the cloud cleared in the morning, so the thermometer didn't have to rise much to make it a warm day.

Thunder · Unread post by **Thunder** » Tue 11/01/2005 12:12

Not all that summery down here today, there are a few breaks in the clouds letting in sun but I think it'll be mostly cloudy today. Winds are light though.

I'm not sure where to put this but here's a link for some before and after satellite pic's of the tsunami devestation!

http://homepage.mac.com/demark/tsunami/9.html

Willoughby · Unread post by **Willoughby** » Tue 11/01/2005 13:25

It will really start to warm up as this high pressure warms up the area quickly.

Mostly sunny currently, 21c, faint southerly

NZ Thunderstorm Soc · Tue 11/01/2005 19:56

I don't think high pressure warms up things as most high pressure contains cold air.
I think it is the absence of clouds that can lead to warming and there is a more of a chance of less cloud with an anticyclone than say an area of low pressure of which we have been getting of lot of lately.
Anyway it should get much warmer from tomorrow onwards in most places and it should continue through into May/June whatever

Interesting to hear and read what NIWA/Jim Salinger and Augie Auer are saying about the weather

JohnGaul
NZTS

03Stormchaser · Unread post by **03Stormchaser** » Tue 11/01/2005 21:03

Good also to see what Bob wrote in The CHCH Star on the recent weather storms stc, and the young chases!!

Michael · Unread post by **Michael** » Tue 11/01/2005 21:13

about time too

tich · Unread post by **tich** » Tue 11/01/2005 21:15

Latest UNISYS outlook has some unsettled weather on the horizon, but mostly for the South Island West Coast, in a westerly flow.

NZ Thunderstorm Soc · Tue 11/01/2005 23:02

03 Stormchaser wrote:Good also to see what Bob wrote in The CHCH Star on the recent weather storms stc, and the young chases!!

Yes, I read that in his gardening article on Jan 7th.
(Bob Crowder that is)
Had to laugh when he mentioned that about the young chasers

JohnGaul
NZTS

RWood · Unread post by **RWood** » Wed 12/01/2005 10:44

NZ Thunderstorm Soc wrote:I don't think high pressure warms up things as most high pressure contains cold air.
I think it is the absence of clouds that can lead to warming and there is a more of a chance of less cloud with an anticyclone than say an area of low pressure of which we have been getting of lot of lately.
Anyway it should get much warmer from tomorrow onwards in most places and it should continue through into May/June whatever
Interesting to hear and read what NIWA/Jim Salinger and Augie Auer are saying about the weather

JohnGaul
NZTS

Auer is talking nonsense - he's implying globally cool events lately, which are in fact localised to a few areas like NZ. 2004 was apparently the 4th warmest for the world. Auer just wants some publicity to raise his profile.

Dean. · Unread post by **Dean.** » Wed 12/01/2005 21:57

Bring back Augie !!!

RWood · Unread post by **RWood** » Thu 13/01/2005 07:12

Deano wrote:Bring back Augie !!!

Why don't you team up with him? Perhaps the world needs more disinformation.

03Stormchaser · Unread post by **03Stormchaser** » Thu 13/01/2005 17:45

RWood wrote:
Deano wrote:Bring back Augie !!!

Why don't you team up with him? Perhaps the world needs more disinformation.

Whats your problem with him?

tich · Unread post by **tich** » Thu 13/01/2005 17:50

Yesterday was the 1st day since Dec 27th (at Muriwai Beach) that I've experienced a day with largely blue skies and only a little cloud. The last such day I recall in Chch was on Dec 8th!

jeffsweather · Unread post by **jeffsweather** » Thu 13/01/2005 18:45

Summer in Christchurch today. I recorded 30.4C at 1:50 pm. The warmest day since I recorded 31.2C on the 10th March 2004.
What was your max in Sommerfield John?

Nor'west arch over the plains and Christchurch at the moment 21.6C and variable light breeze.

RWood · Unread post by **RWood** » Thu 13/01/2005 21:14

03 Stormchaser wrote:
RWood wrote: Why don't you team up with him? Perhaps the world needs more disinformation.
Whats your problem with him?

Refer my post #31. He's been trying to imply cooling, and that "the global warming guys are on the run". I repeat, 2004 was the 4th warmest globally.

Dean. · Unread post by **Dean.** » Thu 13/01/2005 22:00

Can you write anything positive on this forum Rwood.

Skywatcher · Unread post by **Skywatcher** » Thu 13/01/2005 22:29

jeffsweather wrote:Summer in Christchurch today. I recorded 30.4C at 1:50 pm. The warmest day since I recorded 31.2C on the 10th March 2004.
What was your max in Sommerfield John?

Nor'west arch over the plains and Christchurch at the moment 21.6C and variable light breeze.

It got to 28.8C here just before 2pm when the cloud built up - still 19.6C now in a light WNW.

Been a while since we had a good NW arch sunset down here. This is the deepest red of the seven panoramas I took tonight.

spwill · Unread post by **spwill** » Thu 13/01/2005 22:37

Thats a great photo, Steven.

RWood · Unread post by **RWood** » Fri 14/01/2005 06:54

Steven Graham wrote:
jeffsweather wrote:Summer in Christchurch today. I recorded 30.4C at 1:50 pm. The warmest day since I recorded 31.2C on the 10th March 2004.
What was your max in Sommerfield John?

Nor'west arch over the plains and Christchurch at the moment 21.6C and variable light breeze.
It got to 28.8C here just before 2pm when the cloud built up - still 19.6C now in a light WNW.

Been a while since we had a good NW arch sunset down here. This is the deepest red of the seven panoramas I took tonight.

superb!

RWood · Unread post by **RWood** » Fri 14/01/2005 07:02

Deano wrote:Can you write anything positive on this forum Rwood.

Yes - and have done so several times. Weren't you the guy who tried to wind me up about W'gton's climate?

I am a realist about NZ weather however and don't set expectations too high.

As for Augie Auer (sigh), I have met the man - along with a lot of others in the met. science category. I know that he knows very well what he is up to. It may be OK for politicians, talkback hosts and some others to distort or ignore facts, but a scientist should know better, retired or not.

Incidentally, for those who lamented a shortage of fine settled days in Dec. and early Jan., it can be noted that one doesn't need a cold windy month for this to happen, of course. Some mild humid months in the past have produced extremely dull conditions, esp. in coastal zones of the S Island.

tich · Unread post by **tich** » Fri 14/01/2005 11:41

Some mild humid months in the past have produced extremely dull conditions, esp. in coastal zones of the S Island.

Often when there's a cloudy northeasterly here in Chch and only about 15C, inland Canterbury is usually sunny and in the high 20s. (or even 30s in sheltered basins like Hanmer) The anticyclonic airflow may be a warm one originating from subtropical latitudes, but cloud cover and the onshore nature of the flow suppresses daytime tempertaures here (but also keeps the nights mild).

RWood · Unread post by **RWood** » Fri 14/01/2005 12:14

tich wrote:
Some mild humid months in the past have produced extremely dull conditions, esp. in coastal zones of the S Island.
Often when there's a cloudy northeasterly here in Chch and only about 15C, inland Canterbury is usually sunny and in the high 20s. (or even 30s in sheltered basins like Hanmer) The anticyclonic airflow may be a warm one originating from subtropical latitudes, but cloud cover and the onshore nature of the flow suppresses daytime tempertaures here (but also keeps the nights mild).

Well put. I can recall a striking example years ago when returning from a holiday in Central Otago via Pukaki/Tekapo. It was a lovely sunny January afternoon at Tekapo, prob. about 25C with a faint drift thru' Burkes Pass. But the clouds were layered right up to the pass, and the whole of the Plains was under a big inversion, only about 17C with a light NE breeze. There was a slowish moving high, about 1020HPa covering most of NZ.

When the regional flow over NZ is truly NE/E-biased and things are not too anticyclonic over NZ and Tasman lows provide enough moisture then there have been some strikingly dull months in the past in the east of SI (plus West Coast as well usually). Then only parts of Southland and Central Otago have (sometimes) escaped persistent cloudiness. Perhaps the most notable example was in Dec. 1959 when sunshine values were exceptionally small in the east, just 60hrs at Waimate (about 12% or so of possible). Anticyclonic spells all had a lot of low cloud/fogs in those areas.

Fujita Phil · Unread post by **Fujita Phil** » Fri 14/01/2005 13:49

Blue dome with a couple of lenticulars in the distance

Currently 26.5C. I think I can see my house....

Michael · Unread post by **Michael** » Fri 14/01/2005 14:16

Have a SW near Gale Force especially this morning 19c

Fujita Phil wrote:Blue dome with a couple of lenticulars in the distance

Currently 26.5C. I think I can see my house....

What's worse than raining Cats & Dogs? SW Flows