Thunderstorms and damage reports, N.I. Wed 4th July
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Interesting reports from you guys in the thunderous north. Many people say, "Who would want to live there?" I say "Lots" and I don't envy them
Interesting waterspout moving inland in New Plymouth today, bit similar to the Greymouth Tornado of 2005, difference being the NP one was more refined looking compared to the Greymouth one which looked messy.
ALL tornados outside of the USA are now regarded as 'mini' so that is why the media PERSIST in calling them - MiniTornados. I have constantly told them that a tornado is a tornado.Full stop. None of this mini rubbish. There is no reduction in size of a tornado formation. They are measured from 0 to 6 in a scale, the Fred Fujuta scale, in accordance to the destruction they do with the increasing wind speeds inside the funnel.
Another expression I hate is 'thundery showers' but that is a MetService expression, not the media
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Interesting waterspout moving inland in New Plymouth today, bit similar to the Greymouth Tornado of 2005, difference being the NP one was more refined looking compared to the Greymouth one which looked messy.
ALL tornados outside of the USA are now regarded as 'mini' so that is why the media PERSIST in calling them - MiniTornados. I have constantly told them that a tornado is a tornado.Full stop. None of this mini rubbish. There is no reduction in size of a tornado formation. They are measured from 0 to 6 in a scale, the Fred Fujuta scale, in accordance to the destruction they do with the increasing wind speeds inside the funnel.
Another expression I hate is 'thundery showers' but that is a MetService expression, not the media
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Sure an interesting read today! Fancy 3 tornados reported in three different centres in one day. That says volumes about how many others probably occured but weren't seen.
I am of the opinion that many weak tornados occur in New Zealand and they are more common than most people realise. (I hate this term mini tornados too).
If you take the case of the South Island west coast, over the last few years there have been about 3 I can recall in the Greymouth area, 1 around Hokitika and 1 down Franz Joseph way. These are just spot samples of a very long coast line, so on a statistical basis there must be many others occuring in between.
John, as far as 'thundery showers' go, I'm not a big fan of the expression either, but it is useful because it is concise. It gets the idea of thunderstorms across without using very many words in a regional forecast. If the storms are considered to be significant, then I ask that the word thunderstorms be used.
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I am of the opinion that many weak tornados occur in New Zealand and they are more common than most people realise. (I hate this term mini tornados too).
If you take the case of the South Island west coast, over the last few years there have been about 3 I can recall in the Greymouth area, 1 around Hokitika and 1 down Franz Joseph way. These are just spot samples of a very long coast line, so on a statistical basis there must be many others occuring in between.
John, as far as 'thundery showers' go, I'm not a big fan of the expression either, but it is useful because it is concise. It gets the idea of thunderstorms across without using very many words in a regional forecast. If the storms are considered to be significant, then I ask that the word thunderstorms be used.
Paul
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I was cycling 10kms home from work at 3:30 for a dental appt when it started. The camera caught a lapse set of pics and will share three...
Just heavy rain and a gust to 43kms at the time of the first pic. No thunder heard here. The sun struggled and then drowned, and later the back end of the cloud was very distinct...
The thumbnails look terrible compared with the originals... ??
Just heavy rain and a gust to 43kms at the time of the first pic. No thunder heard here. The sun struggled and then drowned, and later the back end of the cloud was very distinct...
The thumbnails look terrible compared with the originals... ??
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No it's not that. To me the term thundery showers are always associated with heavy showers, which mean that the rain is going to pour down more heavy than a heavy shower ie. The rain is going to be that heavy, it is going to thunder down. The fact that thunder is heard whist the thundery shower is occuring, is irrelevant ..or is it? Maybe an electrical discharge in the cloud may make the heavy shower become heavier????spwill wrote: Dont mind the term 'thundery showers' but it fits in much better with the Auckland climate than it does with the Canterbury climate.
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got phoned up by the father in law to say that the Awhitu Penninsular (i.e where I live) was the place to be for more tornadoes today....on the 6:30am news on 1YA (because we have had them before the reporter said (reference to the one that went the whole length).
The next front does look good, and its timing will be in the mid afternoon....I would think Auckland city is for a chance again...the waitakere ranges help alot...
maybe a weather meet today guys?
The next front does look good, and its timing will be in the mid afternoon....I would think Auckland city is for a chance again...the waitakere ranges help alot...
maybe a weather meet today guys?
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Superb quote Tony, thanks for that !!TonyT wrote:Mini-tornado is an expression used by mini-reporters compiling a mini-item for a mini-news bulletin on a mini-tv station. Put it like that, and they get the idea. :
Spectacular lightning going West, from Albany via Greenhithe, Hobsonville around 1500 hrs. also some hail in between the buckets of rain while the wipers were running on high speed.
Didn't get a chance to post last night, also brxxxed off i didn't have my camera on me. the cloud brim looked very threatening.
Who put the LED's on the lightning arrestor ?
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I must've got it wrong - it was a racecourse not a lake (unless they'd just had a massive downpour); the map on TV showed it in blue. (which I automatically assumed means water) 20 years ago was the last time I was in New Plymouth.I see in the TV1 News footage of the New Plymouth one that it started as a waterspout before hitting land. The path shown had it crossing a small lake - turning into a waterspout again?
I noticed another blooper on a headline this morning - it effectively said the a tornado hit New Plymouth, then Auckland, and finally Tauranga. From what I've read the longest distance 1 tornado can travel is about 30km, and that would be a pretty massive (F5) one.
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Not sure how Brendon or Mike would react to that.Peopled_Diagram wrote:Tee Hee and I suppose the reporter ought to be wearing a "Mini Skirt" - winkTonyT wrote:Mini-tornado is an expression used by mini-reporters compiling a mini-item for a mini-news bulletin on a mini-tv station. Put it like that, and they get the idea. :
Nor Jim Hickey for that matter
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Location of incident: Taranaki
Incident Type: Tornado
Police are getting reports of several tornadoes hitting the coast of Taranaki from Oakura to Waitara. Police would like to advise residents to stay indoors. As a result several trees have come down onto roads in the area and roofs have been blown off. Fire, ambulance and police are responding.
Issued By: Team Leader Stacey Robinson
Incident Type: Tornado
Police are getting reports of several tornadoes hitting the coast of Taranaki from Oakura to Waitara. Police would like to advise residents to stay indoors. As a result several trees have come down onto roads in the area and roofs have been blown off. Fire, ambulance and police are responding.
Issued By: Team Leader Stacey Robinson
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What the hecks going on?
From Stuff:
Thursday, 5 July 2007
More tornados hit Taranaki
BREAKING NEWS: A swarm of tornados has hit the North Taranaki coast with reports flooding in of damage in New Plymouth, Waitara and Oakura, just a day after a twister tore through central New Plymouth.
Further reports were coming in that tornados have also hit Stratford, Rahotu, Tikorangi and Egmont Village.
The police and fire brigade received numerous calls from 5.30 this evening about rooves being lifted, windows blown in and trees down.
Police have advised residents from Oakura to Waitarato to stay indoors.
Taranaki Daily News editor Jonathan MacKenzie said "an absolute swarm of tornados" began hitting the region at 5.40pm and it seemed they were still coming.
His newsroom was hearing reports of many, many houses with severe damage, including roofs off, power was out through much of the region and state highways were blocked by falling trees and other debris.
He had also heard reports the fire station at Oakura had been damaged. Inglewood was also affected.
At least one person has been injured - a teenage girl who received treatment for cuts to her feet after the roof of her Oakura home was ripped off.
No further information was immediately available.
From Stuff:
Thursday, 5 July 2007
More tornados hit Taranaki
BREAKING NEWS: A swarm of tornados has hit the North Taranaki coast with reports flooding in of damage in New Plymouth, Waitara and Oakura, just a day after a twister tore through central New Plymouth.
Further reports were coming in that tornados have also hit Stratford, Rahotu, Tikorangi and Egmont Village.
The police and fire brigade received numerous calls from 5.30 this evening about rooves being lifted, windows blown in and trees down.
Police have advised residents from Oakura to Waitarato to stay indoors.
Taranaki Daily News editor Jonathan MacKenzie said "an absolute swarm of tornados" began hitting the region at 5.40pm and it seemed they were still coming.
His newsroom was hearing reports of many, many houses with severe damage, including roofs off, power was out through much of the region and state highways were blocked by falling trees and other debris.
He had also heard reports the fire station at Oakura had been damaged. Inglewood was also affected.
At least one person has been injured - a teenage girl who received treatment for cuts to her feet after the roof of her Oakura home was ripped off.
No further information was immediately available.
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Anyone with access to frequent rain radar images should look at the low pressure system passing over / SE of Taranaki..
Shows what looks like great tight cyclonic vorticity/rotation, that has been over the trail of areas reporting damage, at what must be a decent height at that distance from the radar, Interesting....
Shows what looks like great tight cyclonic vorticity/rotation, that has been over the trail of areas reporting damage, at what must be a decent height at that distance from the radar, Interesting....
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