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Re: Winds gusting to hurricane force?

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re the lightning rotation thing..
it seems to me that mesocylones in the midwest did not have much lightning activity right under the meso....(but instead there was further away with the anvil), but when the meso's all joined up and straightlined in the evening into a bow echo and lost the rotation, then there was lots of lightning....thoughts?
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TonyT wrote: Weather bomb is not a technical term. I've never come across it in the literature at all (thats not to say its not there, just that I have never seen it). The correct technical term is "bomb low" which has a particular and precise technical meaning (which I'm sure we are all aware of). I have read the original paper which introduced the term "bomb low" and from memory I think the phrase was chosen because of the "explosive" cyclogenesis in such systems. Thats why I changed the title of the recent thread about the latest storm from "weather bomb" to "bomb low".

The term weather bomb originated a few years ago as a misquote of Bob McDavitt (I think, might have been someone else) who did an interview in which he correctly described a rapidly deepening low as a "bomb low". This was initially reported verbatim by the media. However, subsequent media reports started talking about a "weather bomb" and its gone on from there. Its a total media invention.

IMHO "weather bomb" i s as annoyingly inaccurate and unacceptable as "mini tornado" or "gusts to hurricane force", and shouldn't be used by weather professionals.
With all due respect Tony, I'm not sure that I'd entirely agree you.

I may be wrong but as I understand it, the key word here is "bomb", which can have its own specific stand-alone meteorological definition without having to add the suffix 'low', 'depression' or 'cyclone'.

So referring to a "meteorological bomb" would be no different than referring to a "weather bomb"...

AMS definition of "Bomb"
NOAA definition of "Bomb"
Weatherzone definition of "Bomb"
The Weather Network definition of "Weather bomb"
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The term 'mini' tornado used again.

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Hi 03Stormchaser, the updated version has (almost) all ref to the 'm-word' removed. However, there is what appears to be to an almost identical draft version here, which currently still includes a few of the offending words (for now).
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Jim used the horrible phrase in his weather slot - I give up!
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Haha - I was waiting for a post about that!
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philip duncan wrote:Haha - I was waiting for a post about that!
I didn't hear it but then he could of said it when I wasn't looking.

By the way, we are having some violent drizzle here this evening. ;-)

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lol
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carrot wrote:lol
?
I know I have posted this before, but what does lol mean?
I hate this term, just as bad a 'mini-tornados'
Is it 'Lots of Loving'?
Personal things like this should not be put up on this forum and I will not abide by that. :mad:


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Uh sorry I just thought that the term violent drizze was a bit funny
Lol = Laught out Loud.
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NZ Thunderstorm Soc wrote:
carrot wrote:lol
?
I know I have posted this before, but what does lol mean?
I hate this term, just as bad a 'mini-tornados'
Is it 'Lots of Loving'?
Personal things like this should not be put up on this forum and I will not abide by that. :mad:


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MarkThomas wrote:means laugh out loud

Phew :fail:
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It's today's text language John ;-) it means laughing out loud.
It is also used via the internet as well as cellphones.
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j--me--h wrote:
LOL John, you crack me up LOL :lol: always making me laugh.

It is essential to have a sense of humour, especially on a forum like this, no matter how wierd it may be :smile:
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NZ Thunderstorm Soc wrote:
It is essential to have a sense of humour, especially on a forum like this, no matter how wierd it may be :smile:
Lot of loving <3

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:-s hmmm not sure what exactly you mean by lots of loving there John :lol: is it loving in the forum or loving towards me :oops: :lol: :lol:
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NZ Thunderstorm Soc wrote:
j--me--h wrote: Lot of loving <3

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:-s hmmm not sure what exactly you mean by lots of loving there John :lol: is it loving in the forum or loving towards me :oops: :lol: :lol:
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AAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!

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q- :rolleyes:
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Thanks for that mini report of the mini tornado that struck the mini part of mini mount Manganui on the mini NE coast of the mini North Island of a rather smaller New Zealand that mini people have mini .....of the mini..,. and I have a mini-minor...mini mouse and Mickey? :rolleyes:
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I hate the expression 'thundery showers' :devil:

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NZ Thunderstorm Soc wrote:I hate the expression 'thundery showers' :devil:

Why?
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Nev wrote:
NZ Thunderstorm Soc wrote:I hate the expression 'thundery showers' :devil:

Why?
It sounds dumb >_<

A thunderstorm is a thunderstorm as far as I'm concerned [-X [-(



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Re: Winds gusting to hurricane force?

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i dont see whats so wrong with the expression myself
maybe the problem is, is that canterbury does not get thundery showers
(instead you get descrete thunderstorms that develop from nothing)
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