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Showery and unstable, mid-March, any and all parts of NZ

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Looking at the GFS Models, The 18th looks really good for t/storms for Auckland area.
19th Looks good for Waikato and down south of the NI.
Hopefully for Aucklanders sake will get a t/storm.
It's a long shot with the models but it looks good anyway.
Cross your fingers Aucklanders. :lol:
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Re: CAPEable Late February and Early March

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yes Tim, looking like some unstable air coming thru mid to late week due to moist low level air destabilising a trough. Maybe an embedded scenario though, instability within a rain area. The South Island could be more interesting with a sharp upper trough crossing Thursday or Friday. Could be worth a new thread in a day or two.
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Re: CAPEable Late February and Early March

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beauty looking pics up there NZstorm NS spwill does look like a supercell thunderstorm! =D>
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Re: CAPEable Late February and Early March

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Looks like an interesting trough later next week. Looking forward to the warmer weather, cool today, overcaste, some light showers.

Looks like High preasure south of NZ later next week and a slow moving low east of the SI, ingredients there for a cold damp South/SE flow.
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Re: CAPEable Late February and Early March

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Starting to look a bit ridgy this week in the north for a CAPEable thunderstorm environment. Aucklands forecast sounding for Wednesday doesn't look good with a large inversion between 650-750mb. The effects of upper level ridging. By thurday the surface trough axis is thru with the moisture going east. South Island still has a chance thursady based of 12Zgfs with some colder upper level air moving thru. But we are getting to the time of year now where the sea breeze convergence is getting weak.
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Re: CAPEable Late February and Early March

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Was it me or was there a teny tiny bit of sea breeze convergence in auckland this afternoon around 5pm?
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Re: CAPEable Late February and Early March

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I checked the Auckland airport metar and no sign of the SW sea breeze there today. But the lower atmos was unstable hence those cumulus. Should see larger cumulus by Wednesday as the air moistens up with isolated heavy afternoon/evening showers.
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we do have a very slight sea breeze here in the last hour
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Re: CAPEable Late February and Early March

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The fine weather continues here, currently 22C, dp 14C, calm.
A few small towering Cu around again today, Radar shows a few heavy showers in the Bay of Plenty.
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yes, nice punchy Cu. 1am sounding shows a degree of CAPE under 760mb, but a large and persistant cap from there upwards. 1pm sounding will be interesting.
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That stable layer above 750mb is forecast to remain in place today and tomorrow. But with the more moist air coming in we should see an increase in low level CAPE under that stable layer. T/cu tops to 4000m look possible by tomorrow hence my comment for the possibility of a heavy shower by tomorrow.
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Re: CAPEable Late February and Mid March

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Doesnt look as good anymore for today: :-( Too warm upper level temps.
Tomorrow looks better :D
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Re: CAPEable Late February and Mid March

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There has been a narrow but very slow moving shower line running onto the BOP coast this morning, some locations around Tauranga must have had quite a bit of rain this morning.

Fine warm weather here, Greylynn showing 24C dp 15C.
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Re: CAPEable Late February and Mid March

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Yes, it's been raining all day. Getting heavier too!

Luckily not enough to be problematic so far at least.
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Re: CAPEable Late February and Mid March

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Man it is friggen hosing down here! Place is starting to flood :(
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Beautiful day here, nearly reached 25°C too - and to think I was wondering whether or not to take my umbrella into uni this morning when looking at the forecast...glad I didn't! :smile:
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Re: CAPEable Late February and Mid March

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Phew, thank heavens that's over with.

Fire got a fair few calls to flooding.

Blue sky appearing now and it's now lighter outside than it has been all day.

It certainly was persistant slow moving localised rain, I didn't see that coming.
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Re: CAPEable Late February and Mid March

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According to Jim Hickey over 50mm fell in Tuaranga today. Not sure exactly where that reading was.
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Re: CAPEable Late February and Mid March

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54mm for the day, 18.6mm in one hour, the heavy falls would have been very local.
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Re: CAPEable Late February and Mid March

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I might be wrong but, wasn't it Whakatane that got the 54mm, and Tauranga that got the 18.6mm in one hour?
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Re: CAPEable Late February and Early March

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Wow this a ideal day.... All CAPE is centralized around the North of NI all the way to waikato.
LI of 0 cape around 500-800j/kg. There is a slight cap but that can be broken very easily.
Just as a reference: Met service does not think a thunderstorm will occur today as of 7 AM on the 18th.
DPs will have to hold for this pan out.. cross your fingers because this effects Aucky, Northland, and Waikato.
Storm chasing potential today! \:D/ :mrgreen:
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Re: Showery and unstable, mid-March, NI

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The stable area mentioned yesterday certainly looks weaker today so isolated thunderstorms do look possible if we can get some convergence. The moisture could be a bit iffy today as its quite shallow and will mix out a bit with heating. But we'll see. Heavy shower or two certainly on the cards.
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Today must be nearly worth a thread of its own?? i sure like the looks of it. Im heading down to Hamilton for a dinner and leaving at 3pm so hopefully i catch a developing storm on my drive down. Might even take a bit of a detour to follow one if there are any.
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I see Tauranga aero had 71mm of rain to 9am yesterday. Further heavy showers up until now in the area means maybe 100mm could have fallen just from local showers!! :eek: I also looked at the Environment BOP rainfall data and one site reported 185mm total with a fall of 60mm in one hour, but I don't think this is a reasonable reading.
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I might be wrong but, wasn't it Whakatane that got the 54mm, and Tauranga that got the 18.6mm in one hour?
I think the heavy rainfall was just in the Tauranga area, a narrow showerline was almost stationary there.

Humid here today, dewpoints around 18C.
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