Thunderstorm Potential Early Dec 2009 in the North

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Re: Thunderstorm Potential Early December, 2009

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nasty nasty looking skies to the north and all along the western sky. sun is out here and warming up
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Re: Thunderstorm Potential Early December, 2009

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Manukau heads observer wrote:the showers out in tasman collapsed
blue skies out there now!
great looking build ups inland though!
Yep!!! still... it was a fun morning... despite having no rain here... (need rain) and the farms down towards Whangarei way need rain, they really need it.
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Re: Thunderstorm Potential Early December, 2009

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Dale Small wrote:Just had a whopper of a downpour here, dropped the temp instantly so there is hail in them thar storms..
Now its just spat out a couple of CG's as it goes over Bombay. Very nice.
Hi Dale :wave: your've been quite havn't seen you on the forum for awhile... anyway glad you got the rain down your way... take care.
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Re: Thunderstorm Potential Early December, 2009

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Nev wrote:Geepers! That one made me jump - good lightning too!
Awesome :D _b

Nev are able to explain to me what conditions causes and/or creates the fog (or is low cloud) to come in like it did suddenly today over the bay, I still find it amazing how quickly it came in the way it did... and is not something I see to often, anyway will welcome any explanation, thank you.
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Re: Thunderstorm Potential Early December, 2009

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if it was anything like what we saw at brians place at the auckland area meet, it was probably just a very humid incoming air mass. the cloud layer essentially lowered to the surface.
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Re: Thunderstorm Potential Early December, 2009

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I can only hope 2010 doesnt pan out like this with the "thunderstorm events"
All of this stupid cloud cover is doing my head in....... :banghead:
I think this year was even worse than 2008, LOL
I may end up watching storm chasers to compensate on the lack of thunder i have been receiving. :lol:
I think im getting withdrawal symptoms >_<
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Re: Thunderstorm Potential Early December, 2009

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Yeah quite a let down. Drove up to Huntly and all we had was one heavy-ish shower. It's pretty disappointing that a moderate risk of severe thunderstorms doesn't even deliver a single weak thunderstorm.
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Re: Thunderstorm Potential Early December, 2009

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Todays sounding from Whenuapai. Some good low level instability with a lifted Index of -4.1 at ob time.

I think the issue today has been a lack of surface heating with too much lower level clouds.
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Re: Thunderstorm Potential Early December, 2009

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A snap shot of a cb in the distance taken late morning. Looking SE.
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Re: Thunderstorm Potential Early December, 2009

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I drove down to Bombay early afternoon , heavy rain/ surface water Pokeno to Mercer with a line of development running across the area giving the occasional heavy shower and thunder/ lightning for a time. Current radar shows more clouds building up down that way. A lot of cloud cover so not good for photo's today.

Took this snap on the way south early afternoon.
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Re: Thunderstorm Potential Early December, 2009

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Vertigo wrote: it was probably just a very humid incoming air mass. the cloud layer essentially lowered to the surface.
Thank's Vertigo _b appreciate your feedback....
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Re: Thunderstorm Potential Early December, 2009

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Tornado Tim wrote:I can only hope 2010 doesnt pan out like this with the "thunderstorm events"
All of this stupid cloud cover is doing my head in....... :banghead:
I think this year was even worse than 2008, LOL
I may end up watching storm chasers to compensate on the lack of thunder i have been receiving. :lol:
I think im getting withdrawal symptoms >_<
Nevermind Tim,

Well... I know what and am able to identify and relate directly to what you mean with those symptoms you have described... there is a name to it you know? YES *chuckle*... its called... needthunderstormslightningmuch-itis - OK in the meantime... here's a site with some really awesome storm pics taken recently over in Australia :D
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Re: Thunderstorm Potential Early December, 2009

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Tornado Tim wrote:I may end up watching storm chasers to compensate on the lack of thunder i have been receiving.
I have every episode (including all of season 3, was epic!), if you want a copy I could mail a cd, let me know.
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Weetbicks wrote:
Tornado Tim wrote:I may end up watching storm chasers to compensate on the lack of thunder i have been receiving.
I have every episode (including all of season 3, was epic!), if you want a copy I could mail a cd, let me know.
Dont worry I am up to date as you, LOL
Finished watching season 3 on Monday :D 2 hours of watching bliss, LOL
I am going to watch season 1 again..... LOL
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Re: Thunderstorm Potential Early December, 2009

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I noticed a photo of a landspout funnel on TV1 news tonight. I didn't catch the exact location it occurred.
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Re: Thunderstorm Potential Early December, 2009

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Quote DT-NZ "needthunderstormslightningmuch-itis" Chuckle :cute:

The Met Service new website is fabulous. Easy to navigate except I can't find my favourite maps. Is it my blondeness or are there no thunderstorm forecast charts? I can't find them.
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Re: Thunderstorm Potential Early December, 2009

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there no thunderstorm forecast charts? I can't find them.
Below the 'rural' banner there is a small weather warnings link. Click on that.

Could be a very wet and cool day tomorrow, I don't think we'll get 20C. GFS is forecasting 50mm for Auckland.
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Re: Thunderstorm Potential Early December, 2009

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Tmmrw is set to be bttr than today, hopefully the cloud clears.
The only thing i can see tht will limit it is the DP.
But heaps more unstable :D
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Re: Thunderstorm Potential Early December, 2009

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Waiuku was here the funnel cloud was :)
we had a sea breeze convergence on the cost here
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Re: Thunderstorm Potential Early December, 2009

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Saw this in the Manawatu Standard tonight:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standar ... -farm-shed

There were heavy showers that passed through Palmerston North, around this time, with a wind shift from E -> S -> W. It looks like this was when one of the surface fronts passed through.

We also had moderate thunderstorms yesterday, on the SE wind change, which passed through mid-afternoon.
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Re: Thunderstorm Potential Early December, 2009

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NZstorm wrote: Could be a very wet and cool day tomorrow, I don't think we'll get 20C. GFS is forecasting 50mm for Auckland.
Wow. Unfortunately I won't be able to get my davis rain gauge outside until the weekend, arrgh >_<
Forecast for blustery easterlies tomorrow so at least I can record that :D
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Re: Thunderstorm Potential Early December, 2009

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where is all this rain and thunderstorms for auckland and neighbouring areas going to come from?

good to hear tomorrow has better potential than today. i had a hunch the early convergence would stuff our chances by blocking the sun. oh well. ya win some and ya loose some.
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Re: Thunderstorm Potential Early December, 2009

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where is all this rain and thunderstorms for auckland and neighbouring areas going to come from?
A frontal zone slow moving across North Auckland is forecast to become more active during the day and drift south toward AK City.
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Re: Thunderstorm Potential Early December, 2009

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GreggWard wrote:Saw this in the Manawatu Standard tonight:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standar ... -farm-shed

There were heavy showers that passed through Palmerston North, around this time, with a wind shift from E -> S -> W. It looks like this was when one of the surface fronts passed through.

We also had moderate thunderstorms yesterday, on the SE wind change, which passed through mid-afternoon.
Wow! Thanks Gregg. _b That's one of the best eyewitness tornado reports I've read for a while. Shame they didn't manage to snap a pic. :smile:

P.S. Just noticed the very last line on that story - must be a typo :-s
Most New Zealand tornados occur in the east of the South Island, or the west of the North Island.
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Re: Thunderstorm Potential Early December, 2009

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Nev wrote: P.S. Just noticed the very last line on that story - must be a typo :-s
Most New Zealand tornados occur in the east of the South Island, or the west of the North Island.
Yes, I saw that too. #-o
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