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was reading that too...
is Niwa now getting into day to day warnings of extreme events, or?
(i.e are they working with M/S on this, or doing it separate to M/S ?)
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Should be good!?
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wouldnt Niwa providing warnings be stepping on the toes of M/S?
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I would have thought that Niwa giving out weather warnings would be outside what they were originally set up to do,would it not be better for Niwa to sell the rights to any program they've developed to organizations who's role i would have thought was it is to give out extreme weather warnings for a start.
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As the article says, they are talking to the councils to provide them with warnings. I would not expect Niwa to make them public to everyone.
The worst that could happen is to get inconsistent information from the MetService and Niwa.
What would make sense to me is if Niwa would make the model data available to the MetService's forecasters, but that seems unlikely given their track record of non-cooperation.
Plus what Richard says. As far as I know the idea always was that Niwa is where the research is done and the MetService does the day-to-day forecasting.

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Is niwa a private enterprise,if so it wont make sense,though if its public the govt is cutting costs so they could end up merging?
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From tommorrow NIWA will be called NIWAR.
National Institute Weather Atmospheric Research.
This is so they can do more research into weather and the atmosphere, than previously.
This being helped by adding the letter R to their acronym.


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OK makes sense!
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And today is........ :)
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talking about today...
check out
http://www.weatherwatch.co.nz/content/g ... nderstorms
yeah right!
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haha almost fell for it!

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Funny thing is - it was called NIWAR for a while. My brilliant idea - not an 1 April one - let's put the 2 outfits back together again, and join the rest of the planet.
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Hey guys - I spoke to NIWA about this very topic just yesterday. As mentioned further up the page it's about research and then that informaiton could be made available to various government agencies. But it appears the public may have limited to access to this data - as might private forecasters. As far as I know MetService don't invest much into weather forecasting technology - but I've asked M/S to explain what they DO invest in.

This computer has cost millions of dollars so one would hope we - the taxpayers - should have access to it too. Certainly one we'll be watching closely to see where it goes. It's great to see NIWA researching this area, as it's definitely needed with such chaotic weather in this country - can't speak highly enough of the science team at NIWA and the hard work they're doing in this area.

Bring back the days when NIWA and MetService worked together as one organisation. The set up now is too flawed.
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It would be interesting to have a NZ weather model produced. Something like the RUC in USA. Maybe thats the sort of thing that NIWA are able to do with their new computer. The RUC (rapid update cycle) is a mesoscale model that updates hourly and is used for mesoscale severe weather forecasting such as thunderstorms.
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