Warmer Winter - NIWA

spwill · Unread post by **spwill** » Fri 29/04/2011 16:05

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/artic ... d=10722281
Niwa predicting an early start to winter with warmer temperatures, does it need to be colder than usual for an early winter ? .

Manukau heads obs · Fri 29/04/2011 16:12

yeah, not really sure what that article is trying to say
especially as May is still Autumn

03Stormchaser · Unread post by **03Stormchaser** » Fri 29/04/2011 18:27

An early, but slightly warmer winter than usual is on the way.

Temperatures in the North Island, Buller, Nelson and Marlborough were likely to be above average from May to June, the National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research (NIWA) said in its seasonal climate outlook released today.

The rest of the South Island was expected to have average to above average temperatures.

"Despite the overall pattern of above average temperatures, cold snaps typical of winter will still occur from time to time through the period," the agency said.

The warmer weather could bring more rain, with normal or above normal rainfall predicted for everywhere expect the lower half of the South Island.

River flows were likely to be above normal in the northern North Island, normal or below normal in the western South Island, and near normal over the rest of the country.

The outlook also said mean sea level pressures were likely to be below normal to the north of New Zealand and above normal to the east and south, with more frequent than normal northerly or northeasterly winds.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4941499 ... ahead-NIWA

RWood · Unread post by **RWood** » Fri 29/04/2011 19:08

The first sentence is a classic howler produced by the semi-literate, and is nonsensical. Try this instead:

http://www.infonews.co.nz/news.cfm?id=66632

What they are trying to say of course is: "Early winter (the season May-July) is expected to be warmer than average".

These ignoranti have jobs ahead of many "seniors" - that angers me at times.

RWood · Unread post by **RWood** » Fri 29/04/2011 19:10

Refer the specific thread opened since - the Herald's effort is a nonsense!

spwill · Unread post by **spwill** » Fri 29/04/2011 19:35

Thought that first line would have to be an error

NZ Thunderstorm Soc · Fri 29/04/2011 19:42

What's normal?

JohnGaul
NZThS

Nev · Unread post by **Nev** » Fri 29/04/2011 20:26

To be fair, that article was circulated by the NZPA - the Herald just added its own oxymoronic headline.

Agree though; it's a sad indictment when the term 'investigative journalism' also seems to have become somewhat of an oxymoron. Case in point is the recent online Herald comments made by Bob MacDavitt about very strong gusts lifting roofs, rather than assumed tornadoes. Sadly those comments never made it to print. Instead the Herald's front-page story included parts of an earlier NZPA report claiming that they were actually tornadoes (or rather 'mini-tornadoes'). But hey, why let the facts get in the way of a good story? Besides, what do meteorologists know about the weather anyway?

Manukau heads obs · Fri 29/04/2011 20:42

agree

Michael · Unread post by **Michael** » Sat 30/04/2011 08:08

May often is a wet month in many parts and I think the wettest month especially eastern areas,also may often is warm relative to winter and june apart from the 09 year is warmer than july and often august too.

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