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Cold Snap 18-22 September 2015

Posted: Wed 16/09/2015 14:38
by David
NZstorm wrote:Looking like the gfs and European can't agree on the evolution of the low pressure system over the north of the country Sunday/Monday. Looking like the subtropical jet will interact with the polar trough so some development definitely on the cards.
GFS seems to be coming more into line with European model now.

Re: General September Weather

Posted: Wed 16/09/2015 19:54
by NZstorm
Looking like a borderline set up for thunder in the east of the South Island Friday on a southerly buster and also upper North Island Friday as a small 500mb trough crosses. I can't see anything happening tomorrow though.

Posted: Thu 17/09/2015 07:28
by 03Stormchaser
Yeah I can't see a lot happening here. The very cold air is arriving too late, will make for an inside weekend I think.

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Posted: Thu 17/09/2015 07:46
by NZstorm
03Stormchaser wrote:Yeah I can't see a lot happening here. The very cold air is arriving too late, will make for an inside weekend I think.
500mb temp on southerly buster tomorrow afternoon -26C. Slight potential there.

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Posted: Thu 17/09/2015 08:44
by Richard
03Stormchaser wrote:Yeah I can't see a lot happening here. The very cold air is arriving too late, will make for an inside weekend I think.
Maybe a late arrival but there have been times in the past where thunder and lightning has accompanied a cold front during darkness hours, so its not out of the question i think. Also there appears that a tough will move NE on that front, so that might help with some extra stability enhancement.

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Posted: Thu 17/09/2015 09:07
by NZstorm
Richard wrote:
03Stormchaser wrote:Yeah I can't see a lot happening here. The very cold air is arriving too late, will make for an inside weekend I think.
Maybe a late arrival but there have been times in the past where thunder and lightning has accompanied a cold front during darkness hours, so its not out of the question i think. Also there appears that a tough will move NE on that front, so that might help with some extra stability enhancement.
The southerly buster according to gfs reaches Timaru by 3pm.

As for the Auckland, we may get rumble off the morning front tomorrow. 500mb-22C surface dp13C.

Re: General September Weather

Posted: Thu 17/09/2015 09:28
by spwill
I think for thunder to occur in Canterbury tomorrow daytime heating will be a factor , it's not overly cold in the upper levels or overly moist at low levels

Re: General September Weather

Posted: Thu 17/09/2015 12:31
by RichyDunedin
Good setup for storms here today. Currently on 22 degrees and no cloud cover.

Re: General September Weather

Posted: Thu 17/09/2015 13:15
by Bradley
For once EC is going for big falls in mid-Canterbury over the next week whereas GFS is only going for around half the amount, 15-20mm. Very unusual to see that will be interesting to see how it pans out...

Re: General September Weather

Posted: Thu 17/09/2015 19:25
by Richard
Yes its stating to look like we may finally get some useful rain next week though the models have been a bit inconsistent over the last two days, looking more likely to North Canterbury than further south.

Posted: Fri 18/09/2015 04:16
by melja
Can't see much happening next week, looks mostly dry and cooler

Re: General September Weather

Posted: Fri 18/09/2015 09:48
by Storm Struck
Hmm :-k a dry southerly has come through already with low cloud scittering in from the south, Im not sure if its a good thing as to whether the southerly sticks around or dies away to allow a NE to kick in.
Theres no moisture until 3pm onwards so I cant see it lasting, but it does boot out the NW by adjusting the flow and becoming more favourable for storms later on.

Re: General September Weather

Posted: Fri 18/09/2015 09:53
by matttbs
Met service have issued a watch for heavy snow for Canterbury south of Rakaia river and a warning for north of it - 20-30cm above 400m with lighter snow to 200m from tomorrow

Re: General September Weather

Posted: Fri 18/09/2015 10:28
by dogmelon
These innocuous little dry southerly changes that come through are curious. I wonder why they happen, they seemingly just sneak up on you.

Re: General September Weather

Posted: Fri 18/09/2015 11:29
by Bradley
It has now swung the other way with GFS going for 20-30mm for mid-Canterbury over the next 3 days while EC has downgraded massively to just 5-8mm - EC is usually right in these situations!

Re: General September Weather

Posted: Fri 18/09/2015 12:45
by RichyDunedin
Had a huge downpour with very loud thunder here. Lightning hit just down the street here in South Dunedin. This was about 15 minutes ago and it was clear all day before that.

Re: General September Weather

Posted: Fri 18/09/2015 13:37
by Storm Struck
I must say its looking like a decent set up now, the suns out 16c and a very light SE wind so its swinging around.

Re: General September Weather

Posted: Fri 18/09/2015 14:02
by Bradley
Storm Struck wrote:I must say its looking like a decent set up now, the suns out 16c and a very light SE wind so its swinging around.
Yes this is starting too look like quite a decent cold front for September, I think this one might surprise a few people with how low the snow will go!

Re: General September Weather

Posted: Fri 18/09/2015 14:07
by matttbs
Bradley wrote:
Storm Struck wrote:I must say its looking like a decent set up now, the suns out 16c and a very light SE wind so its swinging around.
Yes this is starting too look like quite a decent cold front for September, I think this one might surprise a few people with how low the snow will go!
I'm hoping Mt Peel will work its magic and produce a decent storm. Going by radar that southerly is coming up very fast

Re: General September Weather

Posted: Fri 18/09/2015 14:19
by Orion
I can see some cloud far on my southern horizon.
I'm having broadband issues, so can't easily access rain-radar today: I presume it's showing on there?

Re: General September Weather

Posted: Fri 18/09/2015 14:25
by matttbs
Orion wrote:I can see some cloud far on my southern horizon.
I'm having broadband issues, so can't easily access rain-radar today: I presume it's showing on there?
Yea it's working it's way up Otago at present. At its current rate I would say there is a very good chance of it arriving while there is still some good heating so here's hoping for the first decent TS of the season!! :mrgreen:

Re: General September Weather

Posted: Fri 18/09/2015 14:37
by Richard
Still a NW blowing here, all eye's to the south hey :D

Re: General September Weather

Posted: Fri 18/09/2015 14:38
by Razor
Have split out a new thread for this weekends cold snap and moved some relevant posts over. Looks significant enough to warrant its own thread for future reference now

Re: General September Weather

Posted: Fri 18/09/2015 14:46
by Razor
matttbs wrote:
Orion wrote:I can see some cloud far on my southern horizon.
I'm having broadband issues, so can't easily access rain-radar today: I presume it's showing on there?
Yea it's working it's way up Otago at present. At its current rate I would say there is a very good chance of it arriving while there is still some good heating so here's hoping for the first decent TS of the season!! :mrgreen:
Be the second decent TS for us if one eventuates :wave:

Re: Cold Snap 18-22 September 2015

Posted: Fri 18/09/2015 16:22
by Storm Struck
The area to the west of Ashburton coming out from mt peel is one to watch, it looks like theres been storms from Oamaru slightly northwards.
This southerly is running into a fresh breezy NE here at the moment so once it moves up the plains should ramp it up.
Christchurch could well be the best spot