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La Nina 2016/17

Posted: Sun 05/06/2016 17:03
by NZstorm
NOAA are saying a 75% chance of a La Nina by spring, continuing into summer.

I think this could mean less rainfall for NZ overall this winter/spring, but a wetter than normal summer for the north and east. There are other factors to consider like the MJO and SAM and strength of La Nina, so time will tell.

I think temps will stay above average this year.

Re: La Nina 2016/17

Posted: Sun 05/06/2016 17:21
by Richard
Should be in negative values within the next few weeks given how quickly its dropped off over the last month.

Re: La Nina 2016/17

Posted: Sun 05/06/2016 17:41
by TonyT
NOAA are well behind the play on this. The La Nina is here now, and has been for a few weeks, as predicted. It will be a multi year event, hanging around for a couple of years.

Re: La Nina 2016/17

Posted: Sun 05/06/2016 18:39
by NZ Thunderstorm Soc
I hope the weather events will be much more interesting than the useless El NiƱo period we have just come through? [-X :-w <3

Re: La Nina 2016/17

Posted: Thu 09/06/2016 20:23
by ryant1234
I can't remember the last time there was a La Nina when I was living in Christchurch. I was living in Melbourne for the last one and it was great weather.

Posted: Fri 10/06/2016 06:39
by melja
Lots of horrible NE winds in a La Nina in chch I thought.

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Re: La Nina 2016/17

Posted: Fri 10/06/2016 09:39
by Manduke
La Nina is bad news for ski fields :-$

Re: La Nina 2016/17

Posted: Sat 11/06/2016 15:01
by spwill
http://www.weatherzone.com.au/news/snow ... ern/522505
BOM say la nina is better for the OZ ski season.

In the case of NZ subtropical lows can really dump snow on the SI high country.

Re: La Nina 2016/17

Posted: Sat 11/06/2016 16:30
by Manduke
"So far though, there is little snow on the ground and lifts are not operating yet."
that's from your link from BoM!
Ski management always get all worked up over early falls just to get people in their loop. But NZ is going to have a warmer winter according to NIWA
"In the case of NZ subtropical lows can really dump snow on the SI high country."
-you mean from SE's? Yeah nah - what about NW's before the SE's

Re: La Nina 2016/17

Posted: Sat 11/06/2016 18:22
by NZstorm
Manduke wrote:
-you mean from SE's? Yeah nah - what about NW's before the SE's
With the warm advection snow events the flow will be NE ahead of the approaching Tasman Sea low. The alps block the warmer Tasman Sea airmass at lower levels from crossing the devide.

The warm advective snow event last winter dumped about a metre of snow on the foothills (19th June).
But these set ups are fairly rare.

Re: La Nina 2016/17

Posted: Wed 15/06/2016 10:18
by spwill
A couple of notable snow events that have occurred in La Nina years have been the Southland snowstorm, 8th Sep 2010 ( stadium Southland roof collapse) and the Otago snowstorm on the 2nd July 1999, the heaviest on record for parts of Central and West Otago.

Re: La Nina 2016/17

Posted: Mon 20/06/2016 11:23
by Manduke
spwill wrote:A couple of notable snow events that have occurred in La Nina years have been the Southland snowstorm, 8th Sep 2010 ( stadium Southland roof collapse) and the Otago snowstorm on the 2nd July 1999, the heaviest on record for parts of Central and West Otago.
Yes, good point. Those years saw a lot of precipitation, both here and Australia, but I remember were also cooler. But isn't it a general rule that La Nina years are more often mild and wet? Whatever, it looks like Mt Ruapehu has forgotten how to snow :-(

Re: La Nina 2016/17

Posted: Mon 20/06/2016 14:44
by SnwAddct
Things were looking good for Ruapehu but freezing level has just been to high and the rain has eaten away at snow

Re: La Nina 2016/17

Posted: Tue 21/06/2016 09:20
by spwill
There are snow possibilities for our ski fields next week.

There is a significant cold system on track for SE Australia later this week.

Re: La Nina 2016/17

Posted: Fri 24/06/2016 09:34
by Manduke
spwill wrote:There are snow possibilities for our ski fields next week.

There is a significant cold system on track for SE Australia later this week.
Well fingers crossed but no one is in disagreement with NIWA that we are in a warm winter. Coronet has closed. Ruapehu can't open without snow..what they had at the end of May is ALL gone. I think Cadrona is the highest so they may be ok.

Re: La Nina 2016/17

Posted: Fri 24/06/2016 11:03
by SnwAddct
There is the pottential for 20 - 40 cm of snow above 1800m this weekend at Ruapehu, which is a good start as all the gullys need to fill in.

Re: La Nina 2016/17

Posted: Fri 24/06/2016 11:30
by spwill
I see Perisher and Thredbo ( Australia) have had around 40cm last 24hrs, there will be heavy snow showers there today.

Re: La Nina 2016/17

Posted: Fri 24/06/2016 11:47
by SnwAddct
They seem to be in a good patern for snow for the next 2 weeks.

Re: La Nina 2016/17

Posted: Fri 24/06/2016 13:34
by spwill
While June can be a good month some years for Australasian ski fields, it is still early season. :-)

Re: La Nina 2016/17

Posted: Mon 27/06/2016 16:30
by Manduke
SnwAddct wrote:They seem to be in a good patern for snow for the next 2 weeks.
Not too sure about that SnwAddct. I think the La Nina warm winter will stay warm and wet for a while yet and the right amounts of snow could arrive late.

Re: La Nina 2016/17

Posted: Sun 24/07/2016 04:43
by wembley
There is also an additional factor called the Southern Annular Modulation as well.