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Re: High temperatures 23-31 January

Posted: Sat 27/01/2018 22:09
by Razor
Wanaka was a record for MS since records began in the 1970s

Re: High temperatures 23-31 January

Posted: Sat 27/01/2018 22:16
by tgsnoopy
Got as high as 30.6°C here, dewpoint 22.2° at the time. Quite uncomfortable.

Hoping it doesn't get too much hotter than that, or we have lower dewpoints if we do.

Re: High temperatures 23-31 January

Posted: Sun 28/01/2018 06:24
by jamie
Can someone tell me what Hamilton’s January avg high temp is. I feel like it’s about 24? If so then is there a chance Hamilton will meet the 5 days of 5 degrees above avg high for a heat wave to be classed?

Re: High temperatures 23-31 January

Posted: Sun 28/01/2018 07:40
by Nev
jamie wrote: Sun 28/01/2018 06:24 Can someone tell me what Hamilton’s January avg high temp is. I feel like it’s about 24? If so then is there a chance Hamilton will meet the 5 days of 5 degrees above avg high for a heat wave to be classed?
Yep. Here's the normal 1981-2010 January T-maxs for all the 6 main centres...

23.4C … Auckland, Mangere
23.6C … Auckland Aero
23.9C … Tauranga Aero
24.3C … Hamilton Aero
24.0C … Hamilton, Ruakura
20.3C … Wellington, Kelburn
22.6C … Christchurch Aero
18.9C … Dunedin, Musselburgh

Re: High temperatures 23-31 January

Posted: Sun 28/01/2018 08:02
by jamie
Thanks Nev. So Hamilton Ruakura needs 29 or more 5 days in a row for a ‘heat wave’. I think 4 days will be achieved but not sure on the 5th day.

Re: High temperatures 23-31 January

Posted: Sun 28/01/2018 08:26
by Nev
Note that NIWA use Hamilton Aero for their 'main-centre' temps and rainfall.

Re: High temperatures 23-31 January

Posted: Sun 28/01/2018 09:49
by tgsnoopy
Just hit 27°C at 9.46am climbing rapidly, dewpoint already 20.1°C it's going to be a scorcher.

Re: High temperatures 23-31 January

Posted: Sun 28/01/2018 11:35
by RWood
Nev wrote: Sun 28/01/2018 07:40
jamie wrote: Sun 28/01/2018 06:24 Can someone tell me what Hamilton’s January avg high temp is. I feel like it’s about 24? If so then is there a chance Hamilton will meet the 5 days of 5 degrees above avg high for a heat wave to be classed?
Yep. Here's the normal 1981-2010 January T-maxs for all the 6 main centres...

23.4C … Auckland, Mangere
23.6C … Auckland Aero
23.9C … Tauranga Aero
24.3C … Hamilton Aero
24.0C … Hamilton, Ruakura
20.3C … Wellington, Kelburn
22.6C … Christchurch Aero
18.9C … Dunedin, Musselburgh
Not quite on topic, but it would be nice to know what the highest recorded NZ temperatures for each month are ... no easy way of doing that with standard access to CliFlo ... or perhaps NIWA has a list somewhere...?

Re: High temperatures 23-31 January

Posted: Sun 28/01/2018 12:16
by Razor
RWood wrote: Sun 28/01/2018 11:35
Nev wrote: Sun 28/01/2018 07:40

Yep. Here's the normal 1981-2010 January T-maxs for all the 6 main centres...

23.4C … Auckland, Mangere
23.6C … Auckland Aero
23.9C … Tauranga Aero
24.3C … Hamilton Aero
24.0C … Hamilton, Ruakura
20.3C … Wellington, Kelburn
22.6C … Christchurch Aero
18.9C … Dunedin, Musselburgh
Not quite on topic, but it would be nice to know what the highest recorded NZ temperatures for each month are ... no easy way of doing that with standard access to CliFlo ... or perhaps NIWA has a list somewhere...?
I sometimes refer to Wikipedia. Works for some towns

Re: High temperatures 23-31 January

Posted: Sun 28/01/2018 14:43
by RWood
spwill wrote: Sat 27/01/2018 14:19 Off topic slightly here but what would be the highest monthly mean recorded in NZ ?
I recall the upper North Island had monthly averages above 22C in February 2016, that could possibly be repeated this month.
In February 1998 Dargaville EWS averaged 23.0C (Tmax avge 28.7C, Tmin avge 17.2C). A site with the name abbreviated to "Auckland Regional Co" (alt 20m) claimed a 24.3C mean but I think that looks suspiciously high.

Re: High temperatures 23-31 January

Posted: Sun 28/01/2018 16:21
by jamie
Swimming pool is now up to 31c and so doesn’t do anything to cool your body. Pretty sure we have never recorded more than 30 in the pool before.

Re: High temperatures 23-31 January

Posted: Sun 28/01/2018 17:17
by tgsnoopy
jamie wrote: Sun 28/01/2018 16:21 Swimming pool is now up to 31c and so doesn’t do anything to cool your body. Pretty sure we have never recorded more than 30 in the pool before.
Do you have something akin to solar heating? seems a lot warmer than I remember our pool ever getting up to.

Re: High temperatures 23-31 January

Posted: Sun 28/01/2018 17:44
by jamie
No just black concrete pool. Normal big sized pool.

Re: High temperatures 23-31 January

Posted: Sun 28/01/2018 20:50
by tgsnoopy
Made it up to 27.5°, Dewpoint to 22.3°C, wasn't too bad after all.

Re: High temperatures 23-31 January

Posted: Mon 29/01/2018 08:30
by spwill
RWood wrote: Sun 28/01/2018 14:43
spwill wrote: Sat 27/01/2018 14:19 Off topic slightly here but what would be the highest monthly mean recorded in NZ ?
I recall the upper North Island had monthly averages above 22C in February 2016, that could possibly be repeated this month.
In February 1998 Dargaville EWS averaged 23.0C (Tmax avge 28.7C, Tmin avge 17.2C). A site with the name abbreviated to "Auckland Regional Co" (alt 20m) claimed a 24.3C mean but I think that looks suspiciously high.
Thanks RWood. I'm picking there will be some averages above 22C this January. The nights have been incredibly warm around NZ last couple of weeks.

Re: High temperatures 23-31 January

Posted: Mon 29/01/2018 11:45
by Razor
as tweeted by Chris Brandalino from NIWA...

Re: High temperatures 23-31 January

Posted: Mon 29/01/2018 12:03
by melja
He's the one fueling this whole heat wave thing in the media, time will tell I guess.

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Re: High temperatures 23-31 January

Posted: Mon 29/01/2018 12:14
by RWood
Razor wrote: Sun 28/01/2018 12:16
RWood wrote: Sun 28/01/2018 11:35

Not quite on topic, but it would be nice to know what the highest recorded NZ temperatures for each month are ... no easy way of doing that with standard access to CliFlo ... or perhaps NIWA has a list somewhere...?
I sometimes refer to Wikipedia. Works for some towns
The issue arises for multiple station or countrywide records - the standard CliFlo menus just give you individual station data, not consolidations - but Nev can probably do a direct SQL enquiry to the database ...?

Re: High temperatures 23-31 January

Posted: Mon 29/01/2018 12:39
by Bradley
Razor wrote: Mon 29/01/2018 11:45 as tweeted by Chris Brandalino from NIWA...
I seem to recall the 850hpa temps in Feb 1973 were around 24-25C, with Tuesday and Wednesday getting to 20C at a push for Canterbury I’m thinking 38C will be around the maximum achievable temperature on those days...

Re: High temperatures 23-31 January

Posted: Mon 29/01/2018 15:10
by Richard
Just pasted the 30 deg mark, just a wee entree for tomorrow

Re: High temperatures 23-31 January

Posted: Mon 29/01/2018 15:19
by jamie
Richard wrote:Just pasted the 30 deg mark, just a wee entree for tomorrow
What is your humidity or dew point when you normal go over 30 Richard?

Re: High temperatures 23-31 January

Posted: Mon 29/01/2018 15:27
by melja
Just spent the day up waiau and hanmer and while it's bloody hot the dry air(45%) is a change from down on the plans with it being 26C here in Rangiora with 70% humidity.

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Re: High temperatures 23-31 January

Posted: Mon 29/01/2018 15:50
by Richard
jamie wrote: Mon 29/01/2018 15:19
Richard wrote:Just pasted the 30 deg mark, just a wee entree for tomorrow
What is your humidity or dew point when you normal go over 30 Richard?
As malja pointed out its moderately dry on 41% atm, gets much lower with a NW blowing

Re: High temperatures 23-31 January

Posted: Mon 29/01/2018 15:59
by midgrove
Christchurch radiosonde sounding for midday 7th Feb 1973 had 850 temp of 27 deg, surface temp 40 deg with dew point 2.5 deg. The NCEP reanalysis for that time only showed an 850 temp of 21 deg but then that is for grid spacing of 2.5 degrees

Re: High temperatures 23-31 January

Posted: Mon 29/01/2018 16:28
by Richard
What were the sea temps 7th Feb 1973