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Ex-TC Fili's impact on NZ - Apr 12-14

Posted: Fri 08/04/2022 08:55
by Chris Raine
I see Weathergeek has the prog map with the x Fili low sailing pass Brian's site next week at Awhitu before it crosses the North Island and a deep low at that

Re: Tropical Cyclone Fili

Posted: Fri 08/04/2022 08:58
by Awhituobs
haha
was actually planning to be up north (Hokianga) , doing the coast to coast cycle trail...monday and tuesday...
hummm

Re: Tropical Cyclone Fili

Posted: Fri 08/04/2022 09:35
by Awhituobs
The Access (UKmet?) model has it back to being a direct hit
Wahine storm type intensity too

Re: Tropical Cyclone Fili

Posted: Fri 08/04/2022 12:55
by BeaconHill
Just out of interest, I thought I would take a moment to capture the forecast for 6 days out from the 3 models. We can look back next week to compare with what eventuated! (Yep I know - a LONG way out and all that.)
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GFS.jpg
ACCESS.jpg
[Edited to fix naming]

Re: Tropical Cyclone Fili

Posted: Fri 08/04/2022 13:09
by TonyT
BeaconHill wrote: Fri 08/04/2022 12:55 Just out of interest, I thought I would take a moment to capture the forecast for 6 days out from the 3 models. We can look back next week to compare with what eventuated! (Yep I know - a LONG way out and all that.)

ECMWF.jpg

GFS.jpg

ICON.jpg
What you have labelled as Icon is in fact AccessG, you might want to edit that. Here are some others:
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ICON
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UKMO
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GEM
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Canadian
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Unified

Re: Tropical Cyclone Fili

Posted: Fri 08/04/2022 13:44
by Awhituobs
looking at the sat image, the associated cloud sheets are surprisingly expansive (west/east) (the whole thing has been flattened up against the high pressure I guess a bit)

Surf

Posted: Fri 08/04/2022 13:55
by Ash
It's looking increasingly likely that the surf is going to be excellent for the east coast next weekend. On a negative note, if these forecasts hold, the east coast of the North Island is going to take a battering from massive waves. Beachfront erosion is going to be mental.

Re: Tropical Cyclone Fili

Posted: Fri 08/04/2022 14:21
by Razor
Latest Metservice mapping suggsts they favour a glancing blow with it staying to the NE of the NI
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Re: Ex-TC Fili's impact on NZ - Apr 12-15

Posted: Fri 08/04/2022 15:33
by Nev
Mod Note:
Thought it might be an idea to have a separate thread for Ex-TC Fili's impact on NZ in the NZ section.
So have moved some of today's recent posts here. :-)

Re: Ex-TC Fili's impact on NZ - Apr 12-15

Posted: Fri 08/04/2022 21:28
by Awhituobs
latest Euro model run has it a more direct hit

Re: Ex-TC Fili's impact on NZ - Apr 12-15

Posted: Fri 08/04/2022 22:33
by NZ Thunderstorm Soc
Sadly Gisborne/Tairawhiti might cop it again :( >_<

Re: Ex-TC Fili's impact on NZ - Apr 12-15

Posted: Sat 09/04/2022 06:10
by Awhituobs
Met Service forecast track now shifted further west
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Re: Ex-TC Fili's impact on NZ - Apr 12-15

Posted: Sat 09/04/2022 09:59
by Nev
MS's latest track-map hedging even a little more further west, which seems to be the model consensus at this stage (maybe even a little more).

Re: Ex-TC Fili's impact on NZ - Apr 12-15

Posted: Sat 09/04/2022 19:38
by harveyt86
Looking pretty interesting on most main models this evening. A lot of water to go under the bridge yet but could be a good one. Hopefully the fast nature of the storm will spare Gisborne / East Cape from too much more damage.

Re: Ex-TC Fili's impact on NZ - Apr 12-15

Posted: Sat 09/04/2022 21:37
by Nev
MS's track this evening has moved Fili even further west over the North Island...

Re: Ex-TC Fili's impact on NZ - Apr 12-15

Posted: Sun 10/04/2022 06:03
by Ash
MetVUW forecasts show a very wet period for the Hawkes Bay region after FILI has blown through.

Re: Ex-TC Fili's impact on NZ - Apr 12-15

Posted: Sun 10/04/2022 08:55
by jamie
Will this low be a bomb low? (Bombing over NZ)


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Re: Ex-TC Fili's impact on NZ - Apr 12-15

Posted: Sun 10/04/2022 09:06
by Nev
Not a lot of change to this morning's MS track-map re the North Island...

Re: Ex-TC Fili's impact on NZ - Apr 12-15

Posted: Sun 10/04/2022 09:16
by Nev
jamie wrote: Sun 10/04/2022 08:55 Will this low be a bomb low? (Bombing over NZ)
Models currently only showing about a 12 15 hPa drop over 24 hours, but anything's possible at this stage... :-s
It's certainly looking like it will be a pretty intense low though.

Re: Ex-TC Fili's impact on NZ - Apr 12-15

Posted: Sun 10/04/2022 10:05
by Ash
If a low that us transitioning to cool system encounters cold air, does that give it fuel for intensification? In this instance, do the cold fronts moving up through the Tasman mark a surge of cold air?

Re: Ex-TC Fili's impact on NZ - Apr 12-15

Posted: Sun 10/04/2022 10:51
by TonyT
Ash wrote: Sun 10/04/2022 10:05 If a low that us transitioning to cool system encounters cold air, does that give it fuel for intensification? In this instance, do the cold fronts moving up through the Tasman mark a surge of cold air?
In theory, yes. In this case, the cold front is expected to disintegrate over the SI, and the cold air won't make it far enough north to significantly interact with the depression. That said, the depression is forecast to undergo some significant deepening whilst just north of NZ and on its way through.

Re: Ex-TC Fili's impact on NZ - Apr 12-15

Posted: Sun 10/04/2022 11:51
by Chris Raine
I got a tweet from NIWA saying an upper air vorticity maximum over SE Australia will trundle across the Tasman Sea and mix with Fili spinning it up and deepening it early this coming week.Where does the sub tropical jet fit into this?Is Fili south or north of the jet?

Re: Ex-TC Fili's impact on NZ - Apr 12-15

Posted: Sun 10/04/2022 17:26
by Nev
Chris Raine wrote: Sun 10/04/2022 11:51 I got a tweet from NIWA saying an upper air vorticity maximum over SE Australia will trundle across the Tasman Sea and mix with Fili spinning it up and deepening it early this coming week.Where does the sub tropical jet fit into this?Is Fili south or north of the jet?
The subtropical jet-stream is currently south of Fili.

Here's what it looks like at midday today...
250 hPa Winds- Apr 10, 0000z.jpg

Compared to midday this Wednesday (GFS)...
250 hPa Winds- Apr 13, 0000z.jpg

Re: Ex-TC Fili's impact on NZ - Apr 12-15

Posted: Sun 10/04/2022 18:29
by Ash
How does a jet stream affect the storm?

Re: Ex-TC Fili's impact on NZ - Apr 12-15

Posted: Sun 10/04/2022 20:20
by TonyT
Ash wrote: Sun 10/04/2022 18:29 How does a jet stream affect the storm?
In quite a few ways. It can "steer" the storm; it can create shear which could destroy the storm; the entry and exit points of the jet can generate positive or negative vorticity centres which can deepen or fill the vortex. Its a complex interaction!