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Convergence today

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should be some afternoon seabreeze convergence's (if thats such a word) today/2moro. Metservice say only affecting Waikato/Waitomo. I would be interested to see if it doesn't stretch to South Auckland and possibly affect West Auckland too. I guess it all depends on where the line sits..

About time too IMO, weathers been a bit boring lately and all Cu buildups have had the flowery edge on them which to me indicates that there is enuff moisture but not enuff upper level instability (am i right here?). I notice this morning north of where I live in west aucks that there was some nice crisp Cu waaaay in the distance. Could this indicate some instability up top and with increasing heating during the day and movement of moisture, could these be good ingredients??

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Yes it looks very interesting today with showers from Waikato southwards likely to be heavy and possibly thundery :P
Auckland will only probably get the isolated shower.

Showery conditions after saturday too... with SWers
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Foggy Hamilton wrote:Yes it looks very interesting today with showers from Waikato southwards likely to be heavy and possibly thundery :P
Auckland will only probably get the isolated shower.

Showery conditions after saturday too... with SWers
Heavy fog here in Omarama this morning, but burning off rapidly now.
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Has the last 3 months been the most boring ever for weather in Auckland ? Roll on Winter.

21C with no Towering Cu, the air is stable.

Afternoon Seabreeze convergence is possible this afternoon as we have light variable winds now but the air is still quite dry for this situation.
Should be a dry fine day with some afternoon cloud.
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spwill wrote:Has the last 3 months been the most boring ever for weather in Auckland ? Roll on Winter.

21C with no Towering Cu, the air is stable.

Afternoon Seabreeze convergence is possible this afternoon as we have light variable winds now but the air is still quite dry for this situation.
Should be a dry fine day with some afternoon cloud.
New Zealand really is a retiree's paradise, from a weather viewpoint, wouldn't you say? :-)
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spwill, i've almost lost my weather lovingness

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wont be any showers here by the looks
wind aleady SW, and just some fair weather cumulus, time is nearly noon....
yes, I could see some promising towering cb's way to the NE,but that will be in the more opne SE flow, where there is not so much rain shadow affect from the NI eastern ranges (as were getting in the auckland/waikato area)

i see the metserive now have rain in the forecast for us....
hummm
must be from a trough moving north maybe from the central NZ area?

humm, there is some good towering cumulus now in the henderson area....could develop into something

actualy, watching the animation, this low to the east of the NI is moviong steadily WEST
if it keeps on doing that, then we might just get rain here in a SWer...that would be good
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eyes peeled then for the Henderson Supercell development!!!

:lol: :lol: :P
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Yes, those Cu over West Auckland now are an early sign of Afternoon showers. Photo below.
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just got this off metservice

we now have a "moderate chance"

whatever that means.

If I see some white bubbles in the sky today with crisp edges, i'll be happy!
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A fine and sunny morning here, cumulus now just starting to pop up.

Keep your eyes peeled! :D
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we must be desparate for action :shock:
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Manukau heads observer wrote:we must be desparate for action :shock:
this is what we have been reduced to here in the big smoke!

ooh look everyone a Cu.... :oops:
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C-Nimbus wrote:this is what we have been reduced to here in the big smoke!

ooh look everyone a Cu.... :oops:
HA! Come on, Auckland has fascinating weather! "If you don't like it, wait five minutes!", as the saying goes...

:-)

Not a Cu to be seen down here, nor any other vapor for that matter. This clear blue sky is becoming monotonous.
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that henderson cloud is growing like a mushroom at the moment...will be worth watching
wind variable here, going all around the compass..sea breeze trying to move in...
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the midday sounding makes things look quite unstable here for these kind of temps and DP... will be interesting to see what happens.. buildups look great! time to take the camera out I think :)
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One or two large Cu around Auckland now.
Photo below looks out over West Auckland from MtEden. :D
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Photo below shows strong convective cloud over West Harbour.
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oooOOO the Henderson Supercell is growing,,,,,,, :shock:

there's even a little bit 'o' crisp in those clouds so the upper must be a tich on the unstable side compared to convective events earlier in the week.

Keep an eye out for a rogue F/C, or am i asking waaaay too much
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spwill that west harbour jobbie looks just the one dunnit

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Nice pics spwill, the clouds here look the same to the west.
The cloud bases are very flat at around 1000m
A vast sheet of high cloud is visble SE of Hamilton/Waikato - Low approaching :P

Mostly sunny currently, 25c, light southerly, 1013hpa and on the decline.
MetService now have increaded the chances of t-storms 8) 8) 8)
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ppfffffttttt


there seems to be a goddam inversion capping everything off :cry: , so it looks like an afternoon of those flattish (but very heavy/grey looking) Cu formations with the floury edges - no definition in the cloud tops.

However I was just looking at the Southern end of Aucks from Newmarket. I have no idea how our Henderson and West Harbour Supercells are coming along!!! :?
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Perhaps not an inversion but an upper level convergence over the Auckland/Waikato area. Convergences at ground level have to go up because wind can't go through the ground but convergences at higher levels can go down and going by the models, chances are there will be no storms today over this area due to it surpressing activity. Clouds could get to 4 maybe 5 km in height today over this area but no higher. The upper level convergence looks likely to hang around today.

SE Waikato / SE Taranaki eastwards could get something??

Here's a nice story!
Convergence: This is air that is slowing down to reach a point, so as you progress along the direction of the wind, the wind strength may go from 100 knots to 80 knots to 60 knots and so forth. This is analogous to traffic and say roadworks. Traffic will bank up at roadworks because people have to slow down - and people behind them moving at say 110km/h have to slow down to the roadworks limit (say 60km/h). As you can see, if you timed both points, more cars could move through the 110km/h zone then the 60km/h zone per hour. This causes cars to bank up - and eventually, cars begin to find other ways of getting around the area when the build up gets too big (ie take another road). This is the same with convergence, as the wind slows down it builds a small high pressure region - air then has to move away from this point, often moving up and down. So imagine an updraft underneath a convergent zone in the upper atmosphere, it's ascending along happily but then it approaches this point, and it begins to slow down because there is pressure being forced upon it from above. For example:
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More air is entering the region then leaving - so this then pushes down on the updrafts. Convergence isn't all bad - for example, it's good in the low levels (surface-850mb, even 700mb sometimes). Keeping in mind that close to the surface, air here has no choice but to go upwards because air can't go below the ground surface!
Vertical Velocities aren't negative but they aren't that positive either, so slight uncertainty there. Still, I think chances are low.

No tornadoes today, if there is they will only be of the small scale local development type...funnel clouds etc.

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The Henderson Super Cu : :D has gone :( , I think it was convergence between an incomming Westerly seabreeze and a southerly this side of the Waitakeries + some good local heating.
There are still one or two short lived Cu towers about.
Thanks for the info Aaron.
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aw well it was good while it lasted...bit of excitement.....I actually think our Henderson Supercell figured out that it was sposed to be in Darwin, so it buggered off!!

Back to the world of dreams \:D/ #-o