Vancouver

spwill · Unread post by **spwill** » Sat 13/02/2010 10:06

I see Vancouver has been ranked the worlds most liveable City however I reckon the climate there for much of the year would be very depressing.

NZstorm · Unread post by **NZstorm** » Sat 13/02/2010 10:24

yes I agree, Lat. 50deg is not a good latitude for livability. The ranking is by the Economist.

top 10 cities were
Liveability ranking, 2010: 1 Vancouver 98; 2 Vienna 97.9; 3 Melbourne 97.5; 4 Toronto 97.2; 5 Calgary 96.6; 6 Helsinki 96.2; 7 Sydney 96.1; 8= Perth 95.9; 8= Adelaide 95.9; 10 Auckland 95.7

Michael · Unread post by **Michael** » Sat 13/02/2010 10:26

It can get quite hot from late August to October there and of course long daylight in summer but winters are usually just wet.

spwill · Unread post by **spwill** » Sat 13/02/2010 11:04

Liveability ranking, 2010: 1 Vancouver 98; 2 Vienna 97.9; 3 Melbourne 97.5; 4 Toronto 97.2; 5 Calgary 96.6; 6 Helsinki 96.2; 7 Sydney 96.1; 8= Perth 95.9; 8= Adelaide 95.9; 10 Auckland 95.7

Auckland having the least extreme climate, I reckon coastal Sydney has the best climate.

NZstorm · Unread post by **NZstorm** » Wed 17/02/2010 21:18

I remember seeing a thread on weatherzone once where the question was asked, which city is the most interesting in the world for weather watching? I think Amarillo Texas got the thumbs up, that city has more weather watches than any where with its big tornadoes, storms and snow.

Michael · Unread post by **Michael** » Wed 17/02/2010 22:27

I know someone who lives there and calls it hongcouver,thats in the cbd.

RWood · Unread post by **RWood** » Thu 18/02/2010 06:58

spwill wrote:
Liveability ranking, 2010: 1 Vancouver 98; 2 Vienna 97.9; 3 Melbourne 97.5; 4 Toronto 97.2; 5 Calgary 96.6; 6 Helsinki 96.2; 7 Sydney 96.1; 8= Perth 95.9; 8= Adelaide 95.9; 10 Auckland 95.7
Auckland having the least extreme climate, I reckon coastal Sydney has the best climate.

I'd put Perth well ahead in that list as far as climate goes - too many dramatic events in Sydney, and I'd like the extra sun in Perth.

There are parts of NZ significantly duller than Vancouver. And "nearby" Victoria is much drier and sunnier, with only 550mm or so rainfall and almost 2200 hrs sun annually.

spwill · Unread post by **spwill** » Thu 18/02/2010 11:20

too many dramatic events in Sydney, and I'd like the extra sun in Perth.

I thought Perth might be too hot in summer, but yes a good climate there.

There are parts of NZ significantly duller than Vancouver. And "nearby" Victoria is much drier and sunnier, with only 550mm or so rainfall and almost 2200 hrs sun annually.

Summer looks okay but a dark very cold Winter over there, NZ has good quality winter light.

Tim S · Unread post by **Tim S** » Thu 18/02/2010 14:19

I've never really read into these 'best cities to live' lists much myself as its such a subjective thing. What one person may consider as a great climate another may absolutely hate it. I mean my better half lived in Auckland for a good part of her life and she hated its climate, yet she loves Perth's climate. While I on the other hand don't think too much of Perth's climate and would prefer somewhere a bit cooler and more interesting weather wise!

Though on the matter of Perth's climate, it can seem very appealing to people that come from cooler and less sunnier climates but if you ask people that have been here more than a few years most will say the summer's are too hot. They'll say Its great if you have a good air-con and are close to the beach but if you have to live in the inner burbs during a long hot summer without air con I am sure they will have a lot less rosier view of things. Sure we get a lot of sunshine but after you've had day 70+ without rain and haven't even seen a cloud for a week or two, blue sky days get a wee bit mundane. Though thats the same with anywhere, I mean I'd love to live in a place that got snowfall in winter but I am sure if I lived in say Sweden or somewhere I may get a little sick of it!

Also as its a best 'city' thing, anyone who doesn't like cities would prefer to live somewhere else, I'd put myself in that group!

RWood · Unread post by **RWood** » Thu 18/02/2010 16:25

Tim S wrote:I've never really read into these 'best cities to live' lists much myself as its such a subjective thing. What one person may consider as a great climate another may absolutely hate it. I mean my better half lived in Auckland for a good part of her life and she hated its climate, yet she loves Perth's climate. While I on the other hand don't think too much of Perth's climate and would prefer somewhere a bit cooler and more interesting weather wise!

Though on the matter of Perth's climate, it can seem very appealing to people that come from cooler and less sunnier climates but if you ask people that have been here more than a few years most will say the summer's are too hot. They'll say Its great if you have a good air-con and are close to the beach but if you have to live in the inner burbs during a long hot summer without air con I am sure they will have a lot less rosier view of things. Sure we get a lot of sunshine but after you've had day 70+ without rain and haven't even seen a cloud for a week or two, blue sky days get a wee bit mundane. Though thats the same with anywhere, I mean I'd love to live in a place that got snowfall in winter but I am sure if I lived in say Sweden or somewhere I may get a little sick of it!

Also as its a best 'city' thing, anyone who doesn't like cities would prefer to live somewhere else, I'd put myself in that group!

I've met quite a few NZers who escaped the coolness and rain (and modest sunshine) by moving to Perth - none of them wants to move back as far as I know. But I agree that the "best city" - like "best climate" thing is totally subjective.

Personally, I'd enjoy a climate that at least had more sun than anywhere in NZ can offer, though as much as Perth gets would not be compulsory. Mediterranean or semi-desert types are my preferences.

RWood · Unread post by **RWood** » Thu 18/02/2010 16:27

spwill wrote:Summer looks okay but a dark very cold Winter over there, NZ has good quality winter light.

That's all very well, but a downside to maritime NZ for many is that the summers just aren't sunny enough.

spwill · Unread post by **spwill** » Thu 18/02/2010 18:59

RWood wrote,

a downside to maritime NZ for many is that the summers just aren't sunny enough.

Yes, my guess is Vancouvers climate would also have a strong maritime influence due to prevailing westerly pattern and the very long summer days would play a part in the high summer sunshine hrs, compared to NZ.

RWood · Unread post by **RWood** » Thu 18/02/2010 20:12

The daylength helps, but even so Vancouver gets about 62% of possible sun in the sunniest month, and Victoria 68-70%. Nowhere in NZ is 62% exceeded.

spwill · Unread post by **spwill** » Thu 18/02/2010 20:37

Vancouver winter (3 months) averages 196 hrs sunshine, Invercargill 276 hrs , winter temp average for Vancouver is 4C, Invercargill 5.7C .

RWood · Unread post by **RWood** » Thu 18/02/2010 22:02

I wouldn't take either place given any other reasonable choice - but I lived in In'gill for years, and if forced to choose, I'd go with Vancouver. Much higher annual sunshine.

RWood · Unread post by **RWood** » Thu 18/02/2010 22:18

And I should have added - Vancouver Aero mean annual temp. 1971-2000 10.1C vs. In'gill Aero 9.9C - despite the latter's latitudinal advantage.

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