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Isolated Storms BOP/Waikato- 11 November

Posted: Sun 10/11/2013 12:37
by Tornado Tim
Looks like we have a heat/wind convergence induced Thunder setup coming tomorrow, which is a surprise, which may be also assisted by trough passing.

GFS is expecting moisture to come in on Seabreeze and with the heat of day develop potential storms.
Due to expected afternoon temps on the 11th to be around 25°C, it poses a more likely setup for a Seabreeze to enter the equation. The Seabreeze front will most likely enter East central Waikato around 5 to 6PM.

However upper air is fairly dry and there is a risk that the air will mix out, like it did on Friday. The Kaimai Ranges, Rotorua and East Central Waikato, look like the best place.

I may have a peek tomorrow due to the location of the setup, but will only head out If I see something worthwhile.

Re: Isolated Storms- 11 November

Posted: Sun 10/11/2013 12:51
by spwill
GFS has been showing this afternoon shower/storm chance for atleast a few days. A sunny afternoon across inland BOP/ Waikato is needed.

Re: Isolated Storms- 11 November

Posted: Sun 10/11/2013 13:03
by Tornado Tim
spwill wrote:GFS has been showing this afternoon shower/storm chance for atleast a few days.
Shows how much I have been looking at the models since Friday. Didnt bother looking due to thinking that the incoming ridge would get rid of any chance.

Re: Isolated Storms- 11 November

Posted: Sun 10/11/2013 13:37
by NZstorm
I have deleted the sounding I posted earlier and will check out todays 00Z run.

A weakness with the set up is a lack of shortwave.

Re: Isolated Storms BOP/Waikato- 11 November

Posted: Mon 11/11/2013 06:52
by NZstorm
Checking at the 12Z run, looking like a weak cb or two could spring up after 5pm. But not much of a set up.

Re: Isolated Storms BOP/Waikato- 11 November

Posted: Mon 11/11/2013 07:58
by Manukau heads obs
we had a bit of drizzle here this morning...the sea gulls that came in last night were right...LOL

Re: Isolated Storms BOP/Waikato- 11 November

Posted: Mon 11/11/2013 14:27
by Tornado Tim
SFC conditions are ideal for a heat induced storm - temp of 23 with Dp of 18C! The lift just needs to be there. If anything gets going its going to be quite late around 6 PM onwards I think.
Baro decreasing too which is another good sign....

Isolated Storms BOP/Waikato- 11 November

Posted: Mon 11/11/2013 19:18
by jamie
Big coliflower tops to my ESE but nothing on radar....yet?

Re: Isolated Storms BOP/Waikato- 11 November

Posted: Mon 11/11/2013 19:38
by NZstorm
Lack of short wave energy was a big negative on today's convection chances as well as the warm upper level air.

Re: Isolated Storms BOP/Waikato- 11 November

Posted: Mon 11/11/2013 21:29
by Tornado Tim
Spoken a little too soon i think, look at the latest radar image:
60dbz in all :D

Isolated Storms BOP/Waikato- 11 November

Posted: Mon 11/11/2013 21:36
by jamie
Yea very nice cell. Very late starting for nz standards. Nicely isolated but sadly no lightning yet

Re: Isolated Storms BOP/Waikato- 11 November

Posted: Mon 11/11/2013 21:39
by spwill
The wind convergence has come through too late

Re: Isolated Storms BOP/Waikato- 11 November

Posted: Mon 11/11/2013 21:45
by Tornado Tim
Lapse rates are/were not very good today, would have done a little better if the convergence occurred late afternoon. A pitty but 60dbz for a shower.......

Re: Isolated Storms BOP/Waikato- 11 November

Posted: Tue 12/11/2013 06:55
by NZstorm
The short wave was running about 6hrs late. It was over the upper South Island late afternoon and spreading onto the NI in the evening.