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Re: Storms Eastern NZ 10th Oct

Posted: Tue 10/10/2017 19:26
by 03Stormchaser
Captain Salty wrote:in the low res radar from 6:06 to 6:28 looks like a hook formed in the cell to the east of kaikoura. Is that a tornado signature?
The funnel cloud was filmed around 4:30pm. The area in question is so far from the radar, to accurately see a hook would be almost impossible

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Re: Storms Eastern NZ 10th Oct

Posted: Tue 10/10/2017 19:44
by NZstorm
Definitely a nice funnel there. Not enough shear there for persistent updraught but enough to get a funnel cloud going.

Re: Storms Eastern NZ 10th Oct

Posted: Wed 11/10/2017 05:51
by Razor
Intense thunderstorm here right now with large hail. Its nuts!

Re: Storms Eastern NZ 10th Oct

Posted: Wed 11/10/2017 05:58
by mikestormchaser
very Weird!! I got woken up by a phone call from mum saying about the thunder.. It blew up out of no where south of the city.. In rolleston I went outside and it's dead calm with foggy patches.. And flashes everywhere

Re: Storms Eastern NZ 10th Oct

Posted: Wed 11/10/2017 05:58
by Chris W
Wow!

Re: Storms Eastern NZ 10th Oct

Posted: Wed 11/10/2017 05:59
by Richard
Saw the flashes while getting up,

Re: Storms Eastern NZ 10th Oct

Posted: Wed 11/10/2017 06:02
by Karliosis
Bright flashes and loud thunder observed from Riccarton. Still patches of fog and only a few spits of rain here.

Re: Storms Eastern NZ 10th Oct

Posted: Wed 11/10/2017 06:03
by carrot
Don't often get storms like this this early in the morning :)

Re: Storms Eastern NZ 10th Oct

Posted: Wed 11/10/2017 06:08
by Razor
One of the most active TS's I think have experienced in Christchurch. A real humdinger of a wake up!

Re: Storms Eastern NZ 10th Oct

Posted: Wed 11/10/2017 06:09
by dogmelon
What the...Big flashes in the early morning and its cloudy and drizzly outside. This is bizarre. We never get thunderstorms and then we get one at the most unlikely of times. Thats it, I give up.

Re: Storms Eastern NZ 10th Oct

Posted: Wed 11/10/2017 06:10
by Chris W
Rattling the windows like stink! Radar shows it erupted over town. Might just delay the cycle to work...

Re: Storms Eastern NZ 10th Oct

Posted: Wed 11/10/2017 06:10
by 03Stormchaser
Yeah very unusual, certainly not forcasted by anyone. Watched it for a while, no bolts. Witnessed from halswell only flashes at times only at 10secs inbetween

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Re: Storms Eastern NZ 10th Oct

Posted: Wed 11/10/2017 06:17
by 03Stormchaser
Watching the radar it popped up from nothing 5:30am to a pretty active Tstorm 5:40 when I observed flashes

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Re: Storms Eastern NZ 10th Oct

Posted: Wed 11/10/2017 06:32
by dogmelon
Oh yip, a good bit of nowcasting by the metservice. Heh.

Re: Storms Eastern NZ 10 &11th Oct

Posted: Wed 11/10/2017 08:36
by Orion
Sounds intense; I'd be interested to know the dynamics that caused it to develop :-k

Re: Storms Eastern NZ 10 &11th Oct

Posted: Wed 11/10/2017 10:06
by tich
Was wondering what the noise was at first, as there was no thunderstorm forecast. The flashes I saw all seemed like sheet lightning, but tracker map showed lightning strikes.

Re: Storms Eastern NZ 10 &11th Oct

Posted: Wed 11/10/2017 10:35
by melja
MS said it weakened over chch but it was a proper thunderstorm south of the city in one article I read. Not sure what they were watching but a very intense TS over opawa.


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Re: Storms Eastern NZ 10 &11th Oct

Posted: Wed 11/10/2017 12:23
by NZstorm
Orion wrote: Wed 11/10/2017 08:36 Sounds intense; I'd be interested to know the dynamics that caused it to develop :-k

Southerly change running into some of that moist air that had been hanging around for a couple of days.

Re: Storms Eastern NZ 10th Oct

Posted: Wed 11/10/2017 21:00
by tgsnoopy
dogmelon wrote: Wed 11/10/2017 06:32 Oh yip, a good bit of nowcasting by the metservice. Heh.
And largely CC than CG as it pretty much wasn't showing on Blitzortung.

Re: Storms Eastern NZ 10 &11th Oct

Posted: Wed 11/10/2017 22:42
by Willoughby
I'm thinking Lake Ellesmere is partly responsible with the diurnal heat-release cycle...

Re: Storms Eastern NZ 10 &11th Oct

Posted: Wed 11/10/2017 23:11
by NZ Thunderstorm Soc
Willoughby wrote: Wed 11/10/2017 22:42 I'm thinking Lake Ellesmere is partly responsible with the diurnal heat-release cycle...
You could be right there, Will as this was quite an unusual circumstance, and Neil, from most reports that I've seen, it was mostly Cc lightning, so there could been a lot of uplifting.
I got a call from Bob Crowder to say that the lightning woke him up rather than hearing any thunder to later on. He lives around the Cracroft area near PMH.

Re: Storms Eastern NZ 10 &11th Oct

Posted: Wed 11/10/2017 23:17
by Willoughby
Infrared satellite loop with Earth Networks lightning overlay


I modified an ECMWF (10/10 12Z model run) sounding for 75km south of Lake Ellesmere (where they showed 400 j/kg CAPE) with a parcel from 966 hPa (elevated convection). EC also depicts Total Totals rose to 55 this morning in the Canterbury region.
EC CHCH sounding.JPG

Re: Storms Eastern NZ 10 &11th Oct

Posted: Wed 11/10/2017 23:46
by mikestormchaser
Willoughby wrote: Wed 11/10/2017 22:42 I'm thinking Lake Ellesmere is partly responsible with the diurnal heat-release cycle...
I did think this is partly to blame aswel will. Yes there was/ has been some moist air around lately but the surface sea temps from ellesmere would of helped

Re: Storms Eastern NZ 10 &11th Oct

Posted: Thu 12/10/2017 06:40
by jamie
Any chance banks peninsula helped to get the initial lift?

Re: Storms Eastern NZ 10 &11th Oct

Posted: Thu 12/10/2017 06:56
by 03Stormchaser
Brendan and I were talking about this. Also think BP has an influence in these storms. Gfs indicated nothing in the morning that any storm should have formed.

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